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re: Highest ranked team to not play in January!

Posted on 12/9/12 at 11:15 pm to
Posted by purple passion
Feliciana Hills
Member since Nov 2006
666 posts
Posted on 12/9/12 at 11:15 pm to
I'd much rather play on New Year's Eve and be the only game on TV than on Jan 1st with 3 other games on TV at the same time.

Our TV audience will be huge. Every NY Eve party in the country will have our game on.

And I'd much rather play a damn good 10-2 Clemson in the Chicken Bowl than Northern Illinois in a BCS bowl on Jan 1st.

And to all the little girls on here who keep crying because Nicky's on a roll, and LSU is just a second tier program, please just STFU!

LSU is unquestionably an elite program, probably second only to Alabama, thanks to the incredible winning ways of one Coach Les Miles, who by the numbers is currently right there with Nicky-poo, in terms of winning % and in head-to-head battles with Saban.

They are so close that, had we just made one more first down, OR had we stopped Bama in the last minute on 11/3, Miles might have now his third SEC Championship and be playing in his third BCS title game, which would clearly place him ahead of Saban. And, Miles would now hold the one game head-to-head edge, not Saban. That's how close those two great coaches stand, in comparison with each other.

LSU under Miles is NOT close to second tier. We compete with Bama to occupy the pinnacle of college football, and this rivalry during the Saban-Miles era is a close battle that won't be finally decided until Miles and Saban end their careers.

We have to concede that Bama under Saban has a narrow lead right now, but in a few years LSU with Miles might be in front.

But even now, since Saban is everybody's consensus best coach in America, Miles has to be #2, cause he just keeps winning and nipping at Nicky's heels.

Les Miles enjoys the challenge of competing against the very best, he is certainly not afraid, and you know he has the want to finish first, when all is said and done.

And oh by the way, Miles just got an offer to be the highest paid college football coach in America, and I think Jerry Jones probably knows a great coach when he sees one.

We are very fortunate to have Coach Les Miles at LSU, and he has shown us over and over that he is now a Tiger.

Saban's leading by a nose right now, but the home stretch is still a ways off. My money's on Les at the finish line, and I bet it is gonna be one great ride, during the remainder of his tenure at LSU. After all, look at the thrills his first 8 years have given us.

I believe the current Alabama-LSU battle for supremacy during this spectacular Saban-Miles run will be remembered as one of the most historic eras in college football.

Better start enjoying it you crybabies, or continue to wallow in your misguided misery. But if you do, you will miss the rest of this golden era of LSU football, and you will deserve to. It's your choice.



Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56237 posts
Posted on 12/9/12 at 11:18 pm to
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and I still give Miles the benefit of the doubt on not playing Lee. Perhaps we will never know the full story on that.
Lee didn't make his grades and although there was a presto-chango reversal of that decision before the game, Miles didn't think he deserved to play. I agree. Ergo, Mett was named the backup, and Miles didn't want to 1) draw attention to the fact that Lee was being passed over by playing Mett and 2) throw Mett to the wolves in the biggest game of the year.

Now you know.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59040 posts
Posted on 12/9/12 at 11:19 pm to
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We have a great program but may be letting several potential championship teams slip away.


If we were losing to lesser teams I could see this point of view. Ironically the year we did lose to lesser teams we won the NC anyway. I get people being devastated by the BCS CG last year, but beyond that what have we let slip by? 2006 when we lost to 2 top 10 teams in the road? I really think the fact that Bama is going for 3 in 4 years clouds judgement.

Spurrier only won 1 NC at Florida. The LA Times did an article on how USC was like 3 plays away from 3 more NC's in the Carroll era. It happens. We've won 2 and have been right there a couple of other times. We have the talent to be there again, that's all you can ask.
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7635 posts
Posted on 12/9/12 at 11:20 pm to
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No. Because you use the same moronic Baylor argument that several other posters have used. Apparently, you think that if the offense improves, we become Baylor. So, you're either an idiot or a troll. Pick one.


You want a top 100 offense. LSU is in the current top 100 (78 to be exact). Last year we were no. 17 in scoring, and 86 overall, indicating an efficient and opportunistic offense. In 2010, no.86. Not great and plenty of room for improvement. But you engaged in hyperbole, I responded in kind. Sure it would be great to have a offensive juggernaut and a top defense. But we have had a top program without it. We all want improvement, but your vitriolic and hyperbolic criticism is unwarranted. This year we had a banged up offensive line and a pro style qb in his first year as a starter, you aren't going to get a wide open offense. Last year we had Jefferson. Nuff said. But at the same time Miles won an SEC championship, 13-0 regular season, beat Alabama at Tuscaloosa, beat two of the top offensive teams in the country as well, finished no. 2 and some act like the world ended because of a bad game.

Get your panties out of a wad.
This post was edited on 12/9/12 at 11:23 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59040 posts
Posted on 12/9/12 at 11:24 pm to
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If I were sober, I'd totally have posted that.


since you are not, post some Michelle Johnson pics
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259858 posts
Posted on 12/9/12 at 11:28 pm to
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If we were losing to lesser teams I could see this point of view. Ironically the year we did lose to lesser teams we won the NC anyway. I get people being devastated by the BCS CG last year, but beyond that what have we let slip by? 2006 when we lost to 2 top 10 teams in the road? I really think the fact that Bama is going for 3 in 4 years clouds judgement.

Spurrier only won 1 NC at Florida. The LA Times did an article on how USC was like 3 plays away from 3 more NC's in the Carroll era. It happens. We've won 2 and have been right there a couple of other times. We have the talent to be there again, that's all you can ask.




In any fan base, you aren't going to find just 2-3 philosophies or ideas on what makes a good season. No one disputes the program is a very good program but every season is an entity of it's own.

Some fans are just happy with the program while others want more out of an individual season, and feel this program has the potential to be dominant. Just a different way of viewing things.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59040 posts
Posted on 12/9/12 at 11:35 pm to
Define dominant?

Was Florida dominant in the 90's? They won 1 NC. What about USC 2002-2009? Same thing If Bama wins this year it will be only the 2nd time that has ever happened. I don't think that is a fair standard.

I agree every season is an entity of it's own and frankly going 10-2 this season is a great accomplishment given the # of key players we lost thru injury, grades, personal issues and general stupidity, we lost 3 NFL caliber players.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56237 posts
Posted on 12/9/12 at 11:37 pm to
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since you are not, post some Michelle Johnson pics

Nah, don't want to tempt fate again.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259858 posts
Posted on 12/9/12 at 11:40 pm to
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I agree every season is an entity of it's own and frankly going 10-2 this season is a great accomplishment given the # of key players we lost thru injury, grades, personal issues and general stupidity, we lost 3 NFL caliber players.



Not a lot will disagree, but that doesn't seem to be the point which seems to be absolutely fruitless to discuss any further.
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7635 posts
Posted on 12/9/12 at 11:41 pm to
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Unfortunately you can't say anything without being labeled a negatiger, which has lost all meaning.


Probably because there are some who are so critical of Miles, they can't acknowledge the fact fhat he has done an outstanding job, even with some flaws. That makes it difficult. Can Miles be legitmately criticized? Sure. I don't think anyone would say otherwise, but the rational gets lost in the hyperbole and rancor of the anti-miles group. When they fail to look at the big picture and fail to consider the facts, like inexperience, injuries, limitations in abilities that players have, and blindly criticize every thing short of perfection, it gets tedious. Fairminded discussion is fine. But it should be fair. Too much just seems to be mindless and ignorant of the big picture of where Miles has positioned LSU.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259858 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 12:01 am to
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Probably because there are some who are so critical of Miles, they can't acknowledge the fact fhat he has done an outstanding job, even with some flaws
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I think most of the fan base has been lumped into these few you speak of.
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7635 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 12:25 am to
I don't think most fans should be lumped in that category. The internet tends to distort our perceptions. I would hope, maybe vainly, most fans recognize that we are indeed in the golden age of LSU football. We all hope for greater to come, but we actually have it pretty good.

Hopefully we will see some great Louisiana high school qbs who are SEC material. I think there has been a shortage in that area, which has had an impact on our offensive production. And the reality is that it is tough to recruit top QBs to schools outside of their home states. Not impossible, but tough. Most of the great HS QBs today, not all, seem to stay close to home, and we haven't seemed to have had one in a while in Lousiana. We will see what is going to happen.

Hopefully Mett will continue to mature and live up to expectations. If he does, a lot of the complaints will fade. And hopefully there is some real talent coming behind him.
This post was edited on 12/10/12 at 12:28 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259858 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 12:32 am to
All of us are LSU fans, some of us just have different expectations. Every year I am a little disappointed, but come fall I am full of hope thinking this could be the year. Probably a trend that is likely to continue til I die.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56237 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 12:35 am to
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Probably because there are some who are so critical of Miles, they can't acknowledge the fact that he has done an outstanding job, even with some flaws.
Sure I can, but it doesn't mean that I'm going to ignore things that I think fall short, consistently, year after year.

If coaching had nothing to do with the offensive productivity, don't you think that, every now and then, LSU would have the right personnel to produce a highly-effective offense? They haven't. They've been consistently shitty for many consecutive years despite personnel. If 86th in TO is good enough for you, you've been conditioned.

And I apologize for the mistake. I meant passing offense, not that the total offense has been much better, your personal bar notwithstanding.
Posted by s_i5
Earth
Member since Jul 2004
2020 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 12:35 am to
At least it's a night game.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56237 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 12:37 am to
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and we haven't seemed to have had one in a while in Lousiana
RG3 says hi.
Posted by JR Hamilsbach
Member since Oct 2010
797 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 12:48 am to
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Hopefully we will see some great Louisiana high school qbs who are SEC material. I think there has been a shortage in that area, which has had an impact on our offensive production. And the reality is that it is tough to recruit top QBs to schools outside of their home states. Not impossible, but tough. Most of the great HS QBs today, not all, seem to stay close to home, and we haven't seemed to have had one in a while in Lousiana. We will see what is going to happen.


Chicken or the egg. I think that talented qbs were and are recruited, but Miles and co. has handcuffed them and not developed them effectively, but there is no way to prove either side of this argument. I remain optimistic, however, that we were more aggressive towards the end of the season and hopefully we have gotten over our tendency to play scared on offense and appear less capable than our players are, but again, that's just my opinion and how I've interpreted what I've seen.
This post was edited on 12/10/12 at 12:50 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259858 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 12:57 am to
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Chicken or the egg. I think that talented qbs were and are recruited, but Miles and co. has handcuffed them and not developed them effectively, but there is no way to prove either side of this argument.



Totally agree. I think LSU has recruited well in the QB position but has developed them very poorly. Looked like Mettenberger actually regressed this year before stepping up at the end of the season.
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
5303 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 2:01 am to
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RG3 says hi.


RG3 is a Texas kid. He moved there In 97 and grew up there. You just sound stupid
Posted by LSUnKaty
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2008
4340 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 8:48 am to
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Rummel, ban these stupid motherfrickers please
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