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MississippiLSUfan  LSU Fan Brookhaven Member since Oct 2005 9620 posts

| re: Obama isn't serious about the deficit. He just wants to punish the wealthy. (Posted on 12/1/12 at 6:31 pm to PrimeTime Money)
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This class warfare is sickening.
This is exactly what elected him.
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50Mullets  LSU Fan Member since Oct 2012 1059 posts

| re: Obama isn't serious about the deficit. He just wants to punish the wealthy. (Posted on 12/1/12 at 6:44 pm to Rocket)
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So is the war on the poor the GOP has been waging too

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tigersaint26  LSU Fan In front of my computer Member since Sep 2005 1014 posts

| re: Obama isn't serious about the deficit. He just wants to punish the wealthy. (Posted on 12/2/12 at 12:37 am to Rocket)
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No, what you want is to cut people off from social programs because you're resentful of the civil rights movement.
Or maybe he just wants to cut people from social programs to decrease entitlement and decrease money going into these programs so they can be used to do other things. Maybe one of those things could be .....oh, I don't know......maybe lowering the national debt.
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ShortyRob  LSU Fan Savannah, GA Member since Oct 2008 23958 posts

| re: Obama isn't serious about the deficit. He just wants to punish the wealthy. (Posted on 12/2/12 at 2:24 am to Rocket)
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I don't have to. Hell, the contract on America was essentially a war on the poor.
LOL. This is how leftists think. "We steal from you and any attempt at reduce us from doing it tantamount to declaring war upon us". Talk about having a sense of entitlement! You frickers are so used to getting shite you didn't earn that you think it's "warfare" if you don't get it!!
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ItNeverRains  LSU Fan Franklin, TN Member since Oct 2007 4580 posts

| re: Obama isn't serious about the deficit. He just wants to punish the wealthy. (Posted on 12/2/12 at 6:23 am to ShortyRob)
It's just hilarious when these libs finally get the state run capitalism they so desire, they won't be any better off economically, but they'll have their way, and feel better psychologically.
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Rocket Northwestern Fan Member since Mar 2004 60983 posts

| re: Obama isn't serious about the deficit. He just wants to punish the wealthy. (Posted on 12/2/12 at 7:24 am to ShortyRob)
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Talk about having a sense of entitlement! You frickers are so used to getting shite you didn't earn that you think it's "warfare" if you don't get it!!
You and the GOP keep thinking that's what it's about and Democrats will rule the White House for years to come
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Jbird  Iowa Fan Odramaville with EthanL Member since Oct 2012 4868 posts

| re: Obama isn't serious about the deficit. He just wants to punish the wealthy. (Posted on 12/2/12 at 7:27 am to Rocket)
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You and the GOP keep thinking that's what it's about and Democrats will rule the White House for years to come
Indepth, two thumbs up, would read again and again. 
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MDcajuntiger  LSU Fan Denonvilliers' and parts outlying Member since Sep 2007 900 posts

| re: Obama isn't serious about the deficit. He just wants to punish the wealthy. (Posted on 12/2/12 at 8:05 am to Rocket)
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Democrats will rule the White House for years to come
More truth to that than you realize (Freud says hi...) Good luck being ruled...
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ChineseBandit58  LSU Fan piney woods Member since Aug 2005 7378 posts

| re: Obama isn't serious about the deficit. He just wants to punish the wealthy. (Posted on 12/2/12 at 8:06 am to thetempleowl)
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Are people here dumb enough to think obama is the first politician to say we need to tax the rich more? Really?
Of course not - but he may well be the first politician to think of nothing BUT "taxing the rich more." Can you point to any other aspect of his financial agenda? Well he has proposed ridiculous spending increases - to be 'paid for' by taxing the rich more. < do you believe this is even mathematically possible?? I mean as an abstract argument, do you think taxing the rich more will do ANYTHING to FIX the fiscal crisis? If it is not a TOTAL solution, then can you point to ANY aspect of Obama's policy that even RECOGNIZES the 'remaining' parts of the fiscal crisis?? And suppose you can do that (I am willing to bet that you cannot even address the topic) - but suppose you surprise me and actually defend his 'tax the rich scheme' as the only salve we need, then can you also extend this defense to the ADDITIONAL trillions of spending he wants??? PLEASE tell us.
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ChineseBandit58  LSU Fan piney woods Member since Aug 2005 7378 posts

| re: Obama isn't serious about the deficit. He just wants to punish the wealthy. (Posted on 12/2/12 at 8:09 am to Rocket)
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You and the GOP keep thinking that's what it's about and Democrats will rule the White House for years to come
True dat - which is why I say = let the DEMs have their way and get to the scene of the fiscal crash as soon as possible. There is no way conservatives can defeat the 'breed more voters' plank of the DEM party.
This post was edited on 12/2 at 8:10 am
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ChineseBandit58  LSU Fan piney woods Member since Aug 2005 7378 posts

| re: Obama isn't serious about the deficit. He just wants to punish the wealthy. (Posted on 12/2/12 at 8:17 am to Zach)
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He doesn't just want to raise taxes on the wealthy. He wants to raise taxes on EVERYONE. The only way to do that is to go over the cliff.
Absolutely - and the way to do this is to continually reduce the definition of 'the rich' to be 'whoever has more than you do.' Which is why I now want this crash to happen SOON, so there may well be individuals still alive who caused it to happen, and we can use THEM as examples of the type of malevolent politician to avoid in the future. I say - let the DEMs own it - let their drunken revelry run the (antique) luxury limosine they inherited into the tree of liberty as soon as possible, so the old-timers with a memory can begin to reassemble the pieces in a rational way.
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ChineseBandit58  LSU Fan piney woods Member since Aug 2005 7378 posts

| re: Obama isn't serious about the deficit. He just wants to punish the wealthy. (Posted on 12/2/12 at 8:22 am to NC_Tigah)
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The point being, raising taxes on the rich comes commensurate with higher economic risk. If the revenue raised is insubstantial as with current proposals, tax policy is ill conceived at best, duplicitously motivated at worst.
You are engaged in an activity known as "casting pearls before swine." You have actually employed a logical construct here - and that is beyond the mental capacity of who you are responding to. In the unlikely event that he even understands it, he doesn't care. Logic to him is like dandruff on a black suit. annoying, to be cleaned off as soon as possible.
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ShortyRob  LSU Fan Savannah, GA Member since Oct 2008 23958 posts

| re: Obama isn't serious about the deficit. He just wants to punish the wealthy. (Posted on 12/2/12 at 8:35 am to Rocket)
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You and the GOP keep thinking that's what it's about and Democrats will rule the White House for years to come
That the people who are desirous of other people's shite outnumber the people who have that shite isn't news. I don't care if the thieves outnumber their targets. That's not a measure of their morality. I believe you are correct that the left will rule the white house for some time to come. And, eventually, when they finally bankrupt the nation, they still wont accept that they did it to themselves. Regardless, being a thief is being a thief, whether your outnumber your targets or not.
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Rocket Northwestern Fan Member since Mar 2004 60983 posts

| re: Obama isn't serious about the deficit. He just wants to punish the wealthy. (Posted on 12/2/12 at 8:45 am to ShortyRob)
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That the people who are desirous of other people's shite outnumber the people who have that shite isn't news. I don't care if the thieves outnumber their targets. That's not a measure of their morality. I believe you are correct that the left will rule the white house for some time to come. And, eventually, when they finally bankrupt the nation, they still wont accept that they did it to themselves. Regardless, being a thief is being a thief, whether your outnumber your targets or not.
As long as GOP voters keep thinking like this and campaigning like this, you will find yourselves losing power. You have a fear of democrats that is unfounded. The issue to you is not even an issue. The GOP needs to grow up and join the 21 century. But that's your problem.
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ShortyRob  LSU Fan Savannah, GA Member since Oct 2008 23958 posts

| re: Obama isn't serious about the deficit. He just wants to punish the wealthy. (Posted on 12/2/12 at 8:51 am to Rocket)
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As long as GOP voters keep thinking like this and campaigning like this, you will find yourselves losing power
Again, this is irrelevant. I don't view ideology as a game where I hope my "team" wins. If not being pro-thievery is a vote loser, I'm not going to switch to being pro-thievery. That's just silly.
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The GOP needs to grow up and join the 21 century
What does this even mean? Is 21st century thinking the thinking that says you deserve shite you didn't earn from people that did earn it? Is this the revision that needs to happen? I'm sorry, I don't have a "team". I see you think of this all as a game but that's your failing, not mine.
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NimbleCat  LSU Fan Houston, TX Member since Jan 2007 5720 posts

| re: Obama isn't serious about the deficit. He just wants to punish the wealthy. (Posted on 12/2/12 at 8:51 am to Rocket)
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So is the war on the poor the GOP has been waging too
What war is that? I wasn't aware of poor people getting anything other than every possible handout with no obligation to do anything except breed and vote for their masters.
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Rocket Northwestern Fan Member since Mar 2004 60983 posts

| re: Obama isn't serious about the deficit. He just wants to punish the wealthy. (Posted on 12/2/12 at 8:53 am to ShortyRob)
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Again, this is irrelevant
The ramifications of the GOP not having control of the White House run deep and wide. It's plenty relevant
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don't view ideology as a game where I hope my "team" wins. If not being pro-thievery is a vote loser, I'm not going to switch to being pro-thievery. That's just silly.
More immaturity. You GOpers are a bunch of babies
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What does this even mean? Is 21st century thinking the thinking that says you deserve shite you didn't earn from people that did earn it? Is this the revision that needs to happen?
I shouldn't have to explain it to you.
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sorry, I don't have a "team". I see you think of this all as a game but that's your failing, not mine.
What a baby. Just a huge pussy. You have to cry as much as John Boehner.
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ShortyRob  LSU Fan Savannah, GA Member since Oct 2008 23958 posts

| re: Obama isn't serious about the deficit. He just wants to punish the wealthy. (Posted on 12/2/12 at 8:54 am to NimbleCat)
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What war is that? I wasn't aware of poor people getting anything other than every possible handout with no obligation to do anything except breed and vote for their masters.
Every single "poor" person in America is a net gainer in our tax code. They receive more back on april 15th than they put in. Many of them are net gainers even when you include SS taxes in the equation. But that aint good enough. People like Rocket think they should gain even MORE.
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Jbird  Iowa Fan Odramaville with EthanL Member since Oct 2012 4868 posts

| re: Obama isn't serious about the deficit. He just wants to punish the wealthy. (Posted on 12/2/12 at 8:55 am to ShortyRob)
Rob the guy is a mega troll. This kind of shite is all he spews, 
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Rocket Northwestern Fan Member since Mar 2004 60983 posts

| re: Obama isn't serious about the deficit. He just wants to punish the wealthy. (Posted on 12/2/12 at 8:56 am to NimbleCat)
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What war is that? I wasn't aware of poor people getting anything other than every possible handout with no obligation to do anything except breed and vote for their masters.
GOPers have an unfounded fear of democrats. Why? THey're afraid democrats are going to take from them and give it to black people. That fear and resentment fuels the backlash which results on a war on the poor. Obama waves to you from the Oval Office
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