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cwill
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Be more fiscally conservative.


This, standing alone, without the commitment to civil liberties will never win an election for the GOP again.






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Rocket
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Ok but how can you say the younger generation doesn't want to pay for the bulk of the debt when they just voted to re-elected a president who's increased the debt $6 trillion in just four years?


So, presidents now are the ones who increase the debt all by themselves? When it's convenient for him, NC-Tigah likes to say it's Congress who holds the purse strings.

If it were up to Obama, taxes would have been raised a long time ago. He bent to the GOP.

It's amazing how conservatives love to think that the GOP is never to be blamed for anything

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Like I said, I don't see it.


You're just not a smart guy. I mean, you think you can get over on me. The sooner you realize you can't, the better off you'll be.






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constant cough
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But the fricking whining has to stop...I've always found it ironic that the GOP has become the party of victims after years of decrying the practice.



Good lord back to this again? When will the Democrats stop whining? They whine about everything. Look they're whining right now about the GOP "needing to change".






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Baloo
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Are you inferring that Romney was too negative and not optimistic enough during the campaign?

Actually, I was rather indifferent to Romney and Obama, and even said so on here before the election. Both candidates were fairly milquetoast stalking horses for the people actually running the party. Romney could have done a much better job articulating a positive vision, but I do think the negativity is coming from elsewhere, not his campaign HQ. I actually rather like Romney. He seems like a fundamentally decent man. Romney's real problem was not having a coherent vision for America.

And, yes, Dems read Drudge Report. In fact, Drudge Report stories often shape network news coverage. The real question is: who watches network news? People get their news from the internet.






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BeeFense5
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It's amazing how conservatives love to think that the GOP is never to be blamed for anything


Because democrats always admit faults






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constant cough
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So, presidents now are the ones who increase the debt all by themselves? When it's convenient for him, NC-Tigah likes to say it's Congress who holds the purse strings.

If it were up to Obama, taxes would have been raised a long time ago. He bent to the GOP.

It's amazing how conservatives love to think that the GOP is never to be blamed for anything




Yeah it's not like he had a Super Majority in Congress his first two years in office or anything.


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You're just not a smart guy. I mean, you think you can get over on me. The sooner you realize you can't, the better off you'll be.



It's your opinion that I'm not a smart guy. And your opinion isn't worth anything.



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Baloo
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Look they're whining right now about the GOP "needing to change".


No, we're not. I told y'all could "disregard me at your leisure. And look at my demand for change:

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I’ve been giving some thought, like many people, how the GOP could reverse its current fortunes on the national stage. I’m a center-left guy and clearly not in the GOP’s target, but I’ve voted for GOP candidates in the past. In fact, this year I voted for a Republican for Congress as well as in plenty of local offices (where partisan leanings matter a lot less). So, here’s how I would vote for a GOP presidential candidate without the GOP selling its soul. I’m not expecting y’all to endorse the Democratic agenda or anything.


Yes, you can just feel the rage coming off of that opening. I was trying to honestly state how the GOP could attract a middle of the road voter (and I have crossed party lines often). This was advice, not demands. And really, it's pretty soft advice about how to attract me without changing your core principles. Nowhere did I demand you kick people out of your party or change your policy initiatives. Just talk about things differently.






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cwill
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Social issues arent what are losing the elections.


Get your head out of the sand.






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cwill
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Good lord back to this again? When will the Democrats stop whining? They whine about everything. Look they're whining right now about the GOP "needing to change".


Let them whine, but stop your fricking whining.






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Rocket
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Yeah it's not like he had a Super Majority in Congress his first two years in office or anything.


ANd John Boner has been in charge for a few years now

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It's your opinion that I'm not a smart guy. And your opinion isn't worth anything.


If you were smart, you could get over on me. Dumb people don't get over on me.






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constant cough
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Yes, you can just feel the rage coming off of that opening. I


Well I really didn't say anything about you personally. I said they're whining, meaning the left in general.

And they are. It's not enough that they won the election they still aren't happy cause the other side doesn't agree with them on why they won.

Sorry but I just don't think Republicans lost because they are whiny or negative. They lost because they aren't the party of entitlements and the Democrats are.






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Baloo
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They lost because they aren't the party of entitlements and the Democrats are.

If the GOP believes this, they will continue to lose presidential elections.






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constant cough
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ANd John Boner has been in charge for a few years now


Two years, not a few years. Are you implying that the bulk of the $6 trillion in debt that's been run up during Obama's first term has actually been accumulated in the last two years?

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If you were smart, you could get over on me. Dumb people don't get over on me.



No, you're not smart. Cause you keep trying to sidetrack this discussion into some sort of childish argument over who here is smart and who isn't.

Get over on you? WTF are you talking about man? Are we playing some kinda of game here?






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If the GOP believes this, they will continue to lose presidential elections.


No, they won't lose because they believe the truth. They'll continue to lose if they are unable to do anything about it. Entitlement spending has to be cut or Republicans will never win.







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Pilot Tiger
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Sorry but this whole effort to get the republicans to "moderate" is nothing more than an effort to move the country more leftward by default
i dont think baloo suggested that

the GOP has a serious problem communicating its message. It's also allowed outright CRAZY people to have a very loud voice, further alienating, normal middle of the road voters.

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I strongly disagree with this notion that Baloo put forward that Republicans are too negative
this board, the day after the election was so fricking bat shite crazy with the doom and gloom, ITS THE END OF THE WORLD!!! OMGGG

it's fricking childish and ridiculous






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Rocket
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Are you implying that the bulk of the $6 trillion in debt that's been run up during Obama's first term has actually been accumulated in the last two years?


I'm suggesting the GOP is very complicit in our debt

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Cause you keep trying to sidetrack this discussion into some sort of childish argument over who here is smart and who isn't.


Being smart is very fundamental to this discussion because it provides an explanation as to why you can't get over on me

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WTF are you talking about man? Are we playing some kinda of game here?


You are full of shite. That's what I'm saying and you think you can just say anything you want on here and it'll pass.






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cwill
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They lost because they aren't the party of entitlements and the Democrats are.



How long are you going to hold on to this nonsense? The Reps lost because of social issues - not entitlements. Do you think the tech professionals voted for more welfare?






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Pilot Tiger
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They lost because they aren't the party of entitlements and the Democrats are
this is such bull shite

it's laughable dude

come the frick on







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constant cough
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the GOP has a serious problem communicating its message.


Yes, they do. It's called the media. Of course I can't point this out though or else I'm "whining".


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It's also allowed outright CRAZY people to have a very loud voice, further alienating, normal middle of the road voters.



Ok but if that's true than why aren't the CRAZY loud voiced people who've taken over the Democrat party alienating normal middle of the road voters?







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Pilot Tiger
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Yes, they do. It's called the media
repeating this same bull shite over and over isn't going to make it true dude. Blaming the media for the GOP's failure in communicating its message is analogous to gov't leeches blaming rich people for their problems. It's passing responsibility to someone else

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why aren't the CRAZY loud voiced people who've taken over the Democrat party alienating normal middle of the road voters?
Who? debbie schultz? no one listens to that cunt

the evangelicals, the rush limbaughs, the hannitys, et al. They have a LOUD voice, and a platform from which to spew their ignorance in the name of "conservatism"

The GOP does everything it can to marginalize the sane voices, the Huntsman's of the party. It's embarassing for them






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