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re: 6 reasons why the LSU basketball team will make the NCAA tourney
Posted on 11/30/12 at 12:15 pm to D011ahbi11
Posted on 11/30/12 at 12:15 pm to D011ahbi11
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Maybe he should, I'm not the coach. His turnover percentage is actually much better than Hickeys.
Well he doesn't pass enough to have turnovers... I mean shite he averages how many assists a game? come on dude.
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Posted on 11/30/12 at 12:15 pm to SouthOfSouth
C'mon south don't you know it's ALL about scoring when it comes to PGs? What are you thinking 
Posted on 11/30/12 at 12:15 pm to SouthOfSouth
what stat is turnover percentage? i'm actually asking?
Posted on 11/30/12 at 12:15 pm to bbap
Look at the advanced metrics. Tarrants TOV%(estimate of TO's per 100 plays) is better than Hickeys.
Posted on 11/30/12 at 12:16 pm to bbap
Its a measure of # of turnovers / possession played. While they have similar turnover numbers, Turrant played more than hickey and had more possessions to lower his TO%
For assist percentage hickey has a very strong advantage.
For assist percentage hickey has a very strong advantage.
Posted on 11/30/12 at 12:18 pm to D011ahbi11
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Look at the advanced metrics. Tarrants TOV%(estimate of TO's per 100 plays) is better than Hickeys.
With his low assist % you'd have to assume that it is because he doesn't try and create, which is the main function of a PG.
Posted on 11/30/12 at 12:19 pm to SouthOfSouth
yeah i just clicked his links and saw that.
Posted on 11/30/12 at 12:19 pm to SouthOfSouth
If you saw the team Tarrant was working with for about half the season you'd know why he had to do all the scoring himself.
Posted on 11/30/12 at 12:20 pm to SouthOfSouth
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With his low assist % you'd have to assume that it is because he doesn't try and create, which is the main function of a PG.
yeah was just about to write that. which also shows up in his inferior assist/to ratio.
Posted on 11/30/12 at 12:20 pm to bbap
I really think the SoS rating (I know you can say that it's flawed but looking at it it paints a picture of all the stats) pretty much makes it clear that Hickey had at least statistically a better season last year.
Posted on 11/30/12 at 12:20 pm to D011ahbi11
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If you saw the team Tarrant was working with for about half the season
you certainly have us there. i admit i havent watched a tulane basketball game outside of when they played lsu probably since gerald honeycutt.
Posted on 11/30/12 at 12:22 pm to SouthOfSouth
I'm sorry, but I think I'll go with the PER for now. Havent really looked at your whole SoS rating, but I think PER is pretty highly respected. Never heard much about any Sos.
Posted on 11/30/12 at 12:23 pm to D011ahbi11
so we're in agreement. tarrant is a better score, hickey is a better pg.
hickey best pg in state. only took 2 pages. jk
hickey best pg in state. only took 2 pages.
jkThis post was edited on 11/30/12 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 11/30/12 at 12:23 pm to bbap
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you certainly have us there. i admit i havent watched a tulane basketball game outside of when they played lsu probably since gerald honeycutt.
Yeah, cant blame you for that.
Posted on 11/30/12 at 12:24 pm to bbap
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of course it isnt the only stat he wins in
This post was edited on 11/30/12 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 11/30/12 at 12:25 pm to D011ahbi11
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I'm sorry, but I think I'll go with the PER for now. Havent really looked at your whole SoS rating, but I think PER is pretty highly respected. Never heard much about any Sos.
Have you ever seen the formula for PER? Honestly it is for NBA basketball where everyone sucks off top scorers. Not about proving who is the best PG.
Posted on 11/30/12 at 12:25 pm to bbap
Well they both play PG and I'd take Tarrant if I had to choose one. So not really an agreement, Hickey may be a better passer, but there are different roles of a PG.
Posted on 11/30/12 at 12:27 pm to SouthOfSouth
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Have you ever seen the formula for PER? Honestly it is for NBA basketball where everyone sucks off top scorers. Not about proving who is the best PG.
Yes, I've seen it. It's not about proving who the best Pg is, it is about saying which player is more efficient. It says Tarrant is and I'll take the guy who is more efficient.
Posted on 11/30/12 at 12:27 pm to D011ahbi11
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Well they both play PG and I'd take Tarrant if I had to choose one. So not really an agreement, Hickey may be a better passer, but there are different roles of a PG.
I have a rule not to argue with idiots because they will just frustrate you. So Im done with this conversation.
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