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SouthOfSouth 
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| re: 6 reasons why the LSU basketball team will make the NCAA tourney (Posted on 11/30/12 at 11:55 am to D011ahbi11)
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So is Hickey the best PG in the SEC?
If not was Dan Wolken over the top saying Tarrant would be #2 in the SEC?
Who the frick is Dan Wolken and why would I give a shit?
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D011ahbi11 
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| re: 6 reasons why the LSU basketball team will make the NCAA tourney (Posted on 11/30/12 at 11:55 am to bbap)
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No probably not, but definitely in Louisiana.
Through 5-7 games, sure.
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D011ahbi11
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| re: 6 reasons why the LSU basketball team will make the NCAA tourney (Posted on 11/30/12 at 11:56 am to SouthOfSouth)
He covers college sports for USA today.
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bbap 
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| re: 6 reasons why the LSU basketball team will make the NCAA tourney (Posted on 11/30/12 at 11:56 am to D011ahbi11)
He's just better imo. Through however many games really you want to extend it. Of course i've never seen your kid play or even heard of him before five minutes ago.
This post was edited on 11/30 at 11:57 am
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Tigerfan7218
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| re: 6 reasons why the LSU basketball team will make the NCAA tourney (Posted on 11/30/12 at 11:57 am to fjohns1)
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i will be dissappointed if we don't make it though.
Well then prepare to be disappointed, it's only 5 games, and 4 of them were against pretty bad competition.
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i would hope we one of the better 68 teams in the country.
I hate this statement, because it's simply not true.
Is the American conference champ or the Sun Belt champ one of the best 68? Don't think so.
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D011ahbi11
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| re: 6 reasons why the LSU basketball team will make the NCAA tourney (Posted on 11/30/12 at 11:58 am to bbap)
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He's just better imo. Through however many games really you want to extend it
No, not really. No way you can look at their numbers last season and say you'd take Hickey.
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SouthOfSouth
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| re: 6 reasons why the LSU basketball team will make the NCAA tourney (Posted on 11/30/12 at 12:00 pm to D011ahbi11)
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No, not really. No way you can look at their numbers last season and say you'd take Hickey
First, I just looked at the numbers and I'd take Hickey. Second look at schedule. Tulanes confrence lags far behind the sec even in basketball.
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Tigerfan7218
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| re: 6 reasons why the LSU basketball team will make the NCAA tourney (Posted on 11/30/12 at 12:02 pm to SouthOfSouth)
We'll see how good he is if he stays until 2014... The Greenies move to the Big East, that should be fun 
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bbap
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| re: 6 reasons why the LSU basketball team will make the NCAA tourney (Posted on 11/30/12 at 12:04 pm to D011ahbi11)
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No, not really. No way you can look at their numbers last season and say you'd take Hickey.
oh i certainly can. he had better scoring numbers than hickey but every PG category Hickey was superior. Playing against superior competion. SEC isnt elite, but its superior to cusa.
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D011ahbi11
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| re: 6 reasons why the LSU basketball team will make the NCAA tourney (Posted on 11/30/12 at 12:06 pm to SouthOfSouth)
Take a look at their Player efficiency ratings.
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Just last season: Tarrant 21, Hickey 14.9
This season: Hickey 22.5, Tarrant 18.4
Totals: Tarrant 20.5 and Hickey 15.9
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S 
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| re: 6 reasons why the LSU basketball team will make the NCAA tourney (Posted on 11/30/12 at 12:09 pm to D011ahbi11)
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FamousAmos
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| re: 6 reasons why the LSU basketball team will make the NCAA tourney (Posted on 11/30/12 at 12:09 pm to D011ahbi11)
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Just last season: Tarrant 21, Hickey 14.9
This season: Hickey 22.5, Tarrant 18.4
Totals: Tarrant 20.5 and Hickey 15.9
Keep in mind that there is one variable voids this comparison: A completely different offensive philosophy at LSU with our new coach.
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D011ahbi11
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| re: 6 reasons why the LSU basketball team will make the NCAA tourney (Posted on 11/30/12 at 12:09 pm to S)
Check the advanced metrics.
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CP3LSU25
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| re: 6 reasons why the LSU basketball team will make the NCAA tourney (Posted on 11/30/12 at 12:09 pm to fjohns1)
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fjohns1
stay away from the coke
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D011ahbi11
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| re: 6 reasons why the LSU basketball team will make the NCAA tourney (Posted on 11/30/12 at 12:10 pm to FamousAmos)
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Keep in mind that there is one variable voids this comparison: A completely different offensive philosophy at LSU with our new coach
True, also we are looking at a really small sample size so far this season.
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bbap
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| re: 6 reasons why the LSU basketball team will make the NCAA tourney (Posted on 11/30/12 at 12:11 pm to D011ahbi11)
ive looked at the stats. maybe you need to move your guy to the 2 guard since he shoots so much and turns it over a lot. he certainly doesnt seem like he's fitted to play pg.
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SouthOfSouth
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| re: 6 reasons why the LSU basketball team will make the NCAA tourney (Posted on 11/30/12 at 12:12 pm to D011ahbi11)
PER's are very skewed to players who score. If you use my SoS rating that I have posted about a lot lately that many have agreed looks like a better model than the PER last season:
Tarrant Unadj - 26.97 adj- 29.97
Hickey unadj - 36.52 adj - 48.37
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D011ahbi11
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| re: 6 reasons why the LSU basketball team will make the NCAA tourney (Posted on 11/30/12 at 12:13 pm to bbap)
Maybe he should, I'm not the coach. His turnover percentage is actually much better than Hickeys.
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SouthOfSouth
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| re: 6 reasons why the LSU basketball team will make the NCAA tourney (Posted on 11/30/12 at 12:13 pm to SouthOfSouth)
Hickey does more than just score. Tarrant scored 15 ppg, great! Besides that he did very, very little to warrant calling him the best PG in the state.
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bbap
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| re: 6 reasons why the LSU basketball team will make the NCAA tourney (Posted on 11/30/12 at 12:13 pm to D011ahbi11)
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His turnover percentage is actually much better than Hickeys.
huh?
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