| Posted by | Message |
Champagne 
New Orleans Saints Fan
French and Spanish Empire Border
Member since Oct 2007
8074 posts
| re: Daily Mail: British NHS puts sick babies on "death pathway" (Posted on 11/29/12 at 6:52 pm to TN Bhoy)
Once the State takes upon itself the burden of taking care of ALL of the People, the State MUST reserve the right to make these kinds of healthcare decisions.
It is NOT up to the individual to make these tough choices, because these choices are too tough. The wrong decision can impact too many others. As such, we depend on the Wisdom of the State to make these tough decisions. The State will properly decide what's best for the public good. An individual can't possibly be expected to intelligently decide what's best for the common good.
The needs of the many out-weigh the needs of the few, or the needs of just one.
|
| Back to top | |
Champagne
New Orleans Saints Fan
French and Spanish Empire Border
Member since Oct 2007
8074 posts
| re: Daily Mail: British NHS puts sick babies on "death pathway" (Posted on 11/29/12 at 6:55 pm to McChowder)
quote:
Do you know how much money we spend to keep premature crack babies alive until they eventually succumb?
I hope that the State will have the courage to put these doomed babies on the Pathway to the Next Life, rather then waste precious healthcare resources on them.
|
| Back to top | |
TN Bhoy 
USA Fan
Philly
Member since Apr 2010
33584 posts
| re: Daily Mail: British NHS puts sick babies on "death pathway" (Posted on 11/29/12 at 9:25 pm to WildTchoupitoulas)
quote:
Do you know how much money we spend to keep premature crack babies alive until they eventually succumb?
IDGAF
|
| Back to top | |
cwill
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Jan 2005
19212 posts
| re: Daily Mail: British NHS puts sick babies on "death pathway" (Posted on 11/29/12 at 9:28 pm to RollTide1987)
quote:
It always holds true. You cannot sue the government under any circumstances unless the government says you can sue them.
That's patently false.
|
| Back to top | |
McChowder 
LSU Fan
Hammond
Member since Dec 2006
2769 posts
| re: Daily Mail: British NHS puts sick babies on "death pathway" (Posted on 11/30/12 at 3:49 am to Champagne)
I hope that the State will have the courage to put the elderly on the Pathway to the Next Life, rather then waste precious healthcare resources on them.
Heil mein Fuhrer!!!! 
|
| Back to top | |
Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
9558 posts
 Online
| re: Daily Mail: British NHS puts sick babies on "death pathway" (Posted on 11/30/12 at 5:22 am to McChowder)
quote:
I hope that the State will have the courage to put the elderly on the Pathway to the Next Life, rather then waste precious healthcare resources on them. Heil mein Fuhrer!!!!
This is exactly what comes to my mind when I hear stories of the elderly and infants being killed because they are viewed as no longer valuable or a drain to society. The Nazis were very good," health service" providers!
|
| Back to top | |
Mid Iowa Tiger 
Iowa State Fan
Houston
Member since Feb 2008
1179 posts
| re: Daily Mail: British NHS puts sick babies on "death pathway" (Posted on 11/30/12 at 8:34 am to vl100butch)
quote:
how do you keep someone comfortable who is dying and under hospice care....if you give them IV fluids, you are just prolonging the inevetible
Why feed the poor or for that matter anyone else who is not "productive"? We are all dying - every single one of us. So why not gather the limited resources of food and water and only allow those who are productive to utilize them?
BECAUSE IT IS FREAKING IMMORAL same as starving sick babies is immoral.
We get all worked up at starving children in Africa but you think this crap is OK?
What is wrong with people? This crap is sickening. I am ashamed of "humanity" at this point.
I have never wished bad things on people before, but I hope everyone who is OK with this is forced to watch a loved one starve to death and the are forcibly required to stand by and do nothing!
|
| Back to top | |
Powerman
LSU Fan
Corpus Christi, TX
Member since Jan 2004
116244 posts
Online
| re: Daily Mail: British NHS puts sick babies on "death pathway" (Posted on 11/30/12 at 1:10 pm to TN Bhoy)
A very common hospice technique with the elderly is dehydration. If they have stopped eating, then you do not force them to eat. You administer opioids in order to mitigate any pain. But in general, hospice death by dehydration in this fashion is considered quite humane
|
| Back to top | |
BugAC
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
14094 posts
Online
| re: Daily Mail: British NHS puts sick babies on "death pathway" (Posted on 11/30/12 at 1:14 pm to McChowder)
quote:
Do you know how many survive because of aggressive treatment?
So if you walk into a hospital and are diagnosed with an aggressive form of prostate cancer, should we just let you die because the national mortality rate says you only have a %40 chance of survival?
Exactly, the same a-holes who are all for these death pathways because it is cheaper, are the same ones bitching about pre-existing conditions in our own health system.
"How dare you deny me because of my pre-existing condition? Sure it costs others more, but i need to be taken care of. Let's just starve and dehydrate these babies to free up money space."
This post was edited on 11/30 at 1:15 pm
|
| Back to top | |
Lsupimp
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2003
25281 posts
| re: Daily Mail: British NHS puts sick babies on "death pathway" (Posted on 11/30/12 at 1:17 pm to TN Bhoy)
Non-State-Serving tissue mass should be aborted post-birth .
Why should human life be supported via The State Health Apparatus if it can no longer properly serve The State?
Forward !
|
| Back to top | |
Hawgon 
Arkansas Fan
Texas
Member since Feb 2011
1223 posts
| re: Daily Mail: British NHS puts sick babies on "death pathway" (Posted on 11/30/12 at 1:50 pm to Lsupimp)
Anyone who could watch a baby cry for water and not give it to him UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES is the lowest scum of the earth.
|
| Back to top | |
Lsupimp
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2003
25281 posts
| re: Daily Mail: British NHS puts sick babies on "death pathway" (Posted on 11/30/12 at 1:58 pm to Hawgon)
quote:
Anyone who could watch a baby cry for water and not give it to him UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES is the lowest scum of the earth.
Or someone with proper respect for The State.
As Marx so brilliantly said---"Nothing can have value without being an object of utility."
If the aforementioned non-viable, Non-State-serving- tissue- mass is unable to benefit The State we have a societal obligation to be done with it.
By any means necessary.
Now, join me as we move Forward !
|
| Back to top | |
Hawgon
Arkansas Fan
Texas
Member since Feb 2011
1223 posts
| re: Daily Mail: British NHS puts sick babies on "death pathway" (Posted on 11/30/12 at 2:34 pm to Lsupimp)
quote:
Or someone with proper respect for The State.
As Marx so brilliantly said---"Nothing can have value without being an object of utility."
If the aforementioned non-viable, Non-State-serving- tissue- mass is unable to benefit The State we have a societal obligation to be done with it.
By any means necessary.
Now, join me as we move Forward !
Marx was one clever German.
|
| Back to top | |
TrueTiger
LSU Fan
Republic of West Florida
Member since Sep 2004
3177 posts
| re: Daily Mail: British NHS puts sick babies on "death pathway" (Posted on 11/30/12 at 2:46 pm to Hawgon)
quote:
If the aforementioned non-viable, Non-State-serving- tissue- mass is unable to benefit The State we have a societal obligation to be done with it.
By any means necessary.
Which in Marx's atheist view leads one to wonder that if serving the state is the only thing that life is about, and then nothing after that, why not kill yourself now? Shouldn't we just skip right to the logical progression for the Marxist/Statist and pass out cyanide capsules to them now?
|
| Back to top | |
