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re: Dan Patrick Rips Miles

Posted on 11/29/12 at 10:46 am to
Posted by jimithing11
Dillon, Texas
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 11/29/12 at 10:46 am to
No. It was just Alleva giving into the situation instead of being a man and holding his ground.

You don't just fold and throw out numbers for a raise just because there is preliminary interest from another school.

You have no idea how the talks went down. It could have just been two friends talking about who the next coach would be, then Long slips in something like, "how much would it take to get you to come here?" ... shite gets leaked and boom, you have a story.

Media works in weird ways
This post was edited on 11/29/12 at 10:47 am
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7636 posts
Posted on 11/29/12 at 10:57 am to
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No. It was just Alleva giving into the situation instead of being a man and holding his ground. You don't just fold and throw out numbers for a raise just because there is preliminary interest from another school. You have no idea how the talks went down. It could have just been two friends talking about who the next coach would be, then Long slips in something like, "how much would it take to get you to come here?" ... shite gets leaked and boom, you have a story. Media works in weird ways


This makes no sense. On the one hand, you seem to think the Arkansas thing seriously affected the negotiation. But then you seem to think the amount was just randomly decided by Alleva and Miles. Negotiations were under way between Miles and LSU well before the Arkansas matter arose. The raise might have already been largely agreed to for all we know before Arkansas came up. All we can tell for certain is that the timing of the negotiations changed, but there is precious little to suggest that the amount or extension were seriously impacted by the Arkansas discussion. You seem to acknowledge that none of us know exactly what occurred. I agree. But I see no reason why Alleva wouldn't have given a raise. It is well-earned; it is normal (given no raise for 5 previous years and the success in between now and the last raise). The amount is certainly reasonable. I doubt that Alleva folded because of Arkansas. He knew it wasn't serious from the beginning, undoubtedly, as virtually everyone else did.

But as you note, we don't know exactl;y what happened. So why all the speculation and rancor? What we know is that he got a raise in a reasonable amount that in all likelihood he would have gotten without the Arkansas discussion. The only real impact seems to be the timing. Normally the announcement would have been made after the bowl game. But because of the speculation and buzz, the announcement was made to quell all of this quickly to prevent more damage and possible negative effects (such as recruiting).
This post was edited on 11/29/12 at 11:00 am
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 11/29/12 at 2:37 pm to
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You don't just fold and throw out numbers for a raise just because there is preliminary interest from another school.


Miles hadn't gotten a frickin raise since 2007. He won the SEC Championship and went to the National Championship game last year. He deserved a raise last year but didn't get one.

Just because you expected to go undefeated and we fell short of that does not mean Miles did not deserve a raise.
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