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re: Most Important Artist/Bands of all time
Posted on 11/21/12 at 2:15 pm to T1gerWonder
Posted on 11/21/12 at 2:15 pm to T1gerWonder
Individual: Bob Zimmerman/Group: Beatles, Stones
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Posted on 11/21/12 at 2:21 pm to Papa Tigah
quote:
KISS
I can't argue with that.
Posted on 11/21/12 at 2:25 pm to Papa Tigah
Great idea, though this is pretty hard.
Willie Dixon: Pretty much the foundation of the Chicago blues, which is the bedrock upon which rock n roll is built. White people have been ripping him off for 50 years.
The Beatles: The standard by which all pop bands are judged. Also, and they don’t get enough credit for this, they popularized the album. Pop music was based primarily off of singles and full play LP’s were just collections of singles. The Beatles eventually got enough clout to release fully imagined albums and then picking singles from there. Not just Sgt. Pepper’s, but Help! is pretty radical.
Rolling Stones: The rock n roll archetype. Pretty much every rock cliché… they did first. It’s only a cliché because they did it.
Bob Dylan: Popularized the idea that pop music could do more than just simply entertain. He is the first major pop artist who truly got people to accept the idea that pop songs could be ABOUT things. He gave pop music its “importance”.
Velvet Underground: Only 100 people bought their album, but they all formed bands. You can trace all “alternative” to them, as well as the idea that pop music could be truly counter-cultural.
Parliament: You can trace the roots of disco, funk, and hip hop all to George Clinton and Parliament Funkadelic.
NWA: It’s hard to pick out the one rap act that truly solidified it as the dominant form of pop music now, but I’m giving the nod to NWA mainly because A) their first album pretty much invented gangsta rap and B) the successful solo careers of their members. Dr Dre was in NWA, recorded the Chronic, and discovered Snoop and Eminem. His influence is staggering.
REM: The blueprint of American independent rock. They are the moment “post-punk” became “alternative”. There is no indie without them.
T Rex: Never quite got the fame, but they are at the center of glam rock which would heavily influence metal and rock for the next 20 years. For those of you pimping KISS, this is the band they are copying their sound from. Only, ya know, they could actually play.
Pixies: The most ripped off band of the past 30 years. softLOUDsoft.
Willie Dixon: Pretty much the foundation of the Chicago blues, which is the bedrock upon which rock n roll is built. White people have been ripping him off for 50 years.
The Beatles: The standard by which all pop bands are judged. Also, and they don’t get enough credit for this, they popularized the album. Pop music was based primarily off of singles and full play LP’s were just collections of singles. The Beatles eventually got enough clout to release fully imagined albums and then picking singles from there. Not just Sgt. Pepper’s, but Help! is pretty radical.
Rolling Stones: The rock n roll archetype. Pretty much every rock cliché… they did first. It’s only a cliché because they did it.
Bob Dylan: Popularized the idea that pop music could do more than just simply entertain. He is the first major pop artist who truly got people to accept the idea that pop songs could be ABOUT things. He gave pop music its “importance”.
Velvet Underground: Only 100 people bought their album, but they all formed bands. You can trace all “alternative” to them, as well as the idea that pop music could be truly counter-cultural.
Parliament: You can trace the roots of disco, funk, and hip hop all to George Clinton and Parliament Funkadelic.
NWA: It’s hard to pick out the one rap act that truly solidified it as the dominant form of pop music now, but I’m giving the nod to NWA mainly because A) their first album pretty much invented gangsta rap and B) the successful solo careers of their members. Dr Dre was in NWA, recorded the Chronic, and discovered Snoop and Eminem. His influence is staggering.
REM: The blueprint of American independent rock. They are the moment “post-punk” became “alternative”. There is no indie without them.
T Rex: Never quite got the fame, but they are at the center of glam rock which would heavily influence metal and rock for the next 20 years. For those of you pimping KISS, this is the band they are copying their sound from. Only, ya know, they could actually play.
Pixies: The most ripped off band of the past 30 years. softLOUDsoft.
This post was edited on 11/21/12 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 11/21/12 at 2:37 pm to Baloo
Also, Peter Tosh deserves mention (I know....Marley)
Posted on 11/21/12 at 2:37 pm to Baloo
DP
This post was edited on 11/21/12 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 11/21/12 at 2:38 pm to Jester
You could just say the Wailers to include him. I considered them, but chose Parliament as my "foundation" band due to their heavy influence on disco as well.
Posted on 11/21/12 at 2:43 pm to Baloo
don't feel like typing so everybody pretend I listed a bunch of bands I like
Posted on 11/21/12 at 2:50 pm to Baloo
quote:
You could just say the Wailers to include him. I considered them, but chose Parliament as my "foundation" band due to their heavy influence on disco as well.
I just think the Wailers/Tosh had more influence on the dub end.
Posted on 11/21/12 at 4:12 pm to bagNdrag
Most Important Band: The Beatles
Most Important Artist: Bob Dylan
Most Important Overall: The Beatles
Most Important Artist: Bob Dylan
Most Important Overall: The Beatles
Posted on 11/21/12 at 4:38 pm to Baloo
quote:
T Rex: Never quite got the fame, but they are at the center of glam rock which would heavily influence metal and rock for the next 20 years. For those of you pimping KISS, this is the band they are copying their sound from. Only, ya know, they could actually play.
FYI:T Rex from my generation of music. Never cared that much for them. Loved KISS from the minute I first heard them in 1974 while in the Army. I answered in most important band thread, not most influential. KISS made all the other bands of the mid to late 70s try a little harder. I guess they were certainly good enough to have Rush as their backup band when I first saw them. Plus I got to meet and talk with them in 1975 without their makeup, which was pretty much unheard of back then. So, yes, I'm a bit biased.
This post was edited on 11/21/12 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 11/21/12 at 4:51 pm to bagNdrag
quote:
Led Zeppelin
Pink Floyd
Jimi Hedrix
The Beatles
Micheal Jackson
Elvis
Tupac
Biggie
Ehhh, I was afraid to click on this too see these bands listed... And low and behold they were all right in the OP.
In some ways these are the most important bands of all time, but it really depends on what perspective you take.
Led Zeppelin copied almost all of their material. There is a nice youtube video somewhere that shows it.. they stole many old time folk songs, they stole the beats and rhythms from music before their was a music industry.
I think a more appropriate thread title would be most important music in the industrial music age.
Take Elvis for example, he was copying the black guys he was watching in the old clubs.
The Beatles, I may throw up.
The old black men that were rocking clubs long before Elvis and Hedrix deserve credit. Guys like a Lightning Hopkins, Mississippi John Hurt. I'm no expert on this, but anytime this argument gets brought up to real music people, they laugh at the bands you listed as being the most important of all time, because they know they all were greatly influenced by someone that was doing it before them. There is this myth that bands like the Beatles started pop rock and roll, but it's so far from the real truth.
I say Woody Guthrie must make this list. He is the seed to almost everything american songwriters have made.
This post was edited on 11/21/12 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 11/21/12 at 5:04 pm to bagNdrag
quote:
Led Zeppelin
Pink Floyd
Jimi Hedrix
The Beatles
Micheal Jackson
Elvis
Tupac
Biggie
Have to throw some 90's rock in there
Radiohead
Tool
Decent list... It would take me a while to come up with one because I'm sure there would be swaps in and out. I am the biggest TOOL fan around, but I don't think they were THAT important. When I think of important, I think of groundbreaking and changed music forever.
Quickly and this could easily change
Chuck Berry
Beatles
Zep
Floyd
Elvis
Hendrix
Michael Jackson
Metallica
Tupac
Eminem
Posted on 11/21/12 at 5:06 pm to Lsut81
Jane's Addiction should be on this list.
Posted on 11/21/12 at 5:10 pm to 420tiger
quote:
Jane's Addiction should be on this list.
Yeah, I was thinking about Janes, AIC, or even RATM...
I guess you could take off Zepp and throw one of them on because they shaped the 90's. Zepp was great, but did nothing groundbreaking that shaped the industry.
Posted on 11/21/12 at 6:03 pm to Nativebullet
quote:
Tupac Biggie
I second that
Although they "may" be talented at what it is they do. The "talent" that they posses is in no way "musical".
This post was edited on 11/21/12 at 6:06 pm
Posted on 11/21/12 at 6:16 pm to mograyback
quote:
The old black men that were rocking clubs long before Elvis and Hedrix deserve credit.
See, there is another very relevant argument to be made. The old blues guys were certainly originators of ONE of the popular seeds, but to overall music, you cannot understand the breadth of the influence that bigger acts have. Nobody would have heard those old delta blues songs if Zeppelin didn't elaborate on.
However, Jimi changed rock just as much as those guys. He played more than blues progressions, for starters. He also did things with feedback that those guys couldn't do. There were also huge jazz influences into popular music that most people understate. Those big acts, touching an exponentially larger audience, by its very nature makes them more influential.
I'm a guy that listens to a lot of obscure music, so it almost pains me to admit that...
Posted on 11/21/12 at 6:19 pm to bagNdrag
Lynyrd Skynyrd. 
Posted on 11/21/12 at 6:27 pm to Jester
Buddy Rich and Gene Krupa always overlooked.
Posted on 11/21/12 at 7:04 pm to bagNdrag
Posted on 11/21/12 at 7:13 pm to T1gerWonder
Chuck Berry
Otis Redding
The Beatles
The Stooges
Led Zeppelin
The Rolling Stones
Black Sabbath
Deep Purple
The Kinks
Otis Redding
The Beatles
The Stooges
Led Zeppelin
The Rolling Stones
Black Sabbath
Deep Purple
The Kinks
This post was edited on 11/21/12 at 7:14 pm
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