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Aristo 
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| re: Papa Johns CEO responds to Affordable Healthcare Act media issues ... (Posted on 11/21/12 at 5:46 pm to IceTiger)
I don't get how anyone thinks government run anything is efficient.
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RogerTheShrubber
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| re: Papa Johns CEO responds to Affordable Healthcare Act media issues ... (Posted on 11/21/12 at 5:48 pm to Aristo)
I don't think they care if it's efficient. They just don't want anyone making big money off of health care.
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germandawg
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| re: Papa Johns CEO responds to Affordable Healthcare Act media issues ... (Posted on 11/21/12 at 6:07 pm to LaBornNRaised)
First of all the article seems to suggest that he is actually in favor of the law since he will be able to provide health care and not be at a competitive disadvantage.
As far as cutting hours back I call bull shite. You can't just reduce the number of hours an employee works without filling those hours with another employee or cutting back on service, resulting in a severe loss of business. That is the problem with people not having owned a business or having employed people, they suffer from the delusion that you can do anything you dam well please without any ramifications. SO lets say it is possible to cut back on hours...that would have to mean that employees were being worked hours when they weren't needed in the store, thus the law will make employers more efficient, a good thing. If they were needed someone will have to work those hours meaning more jobs will become available, another good thing. What is not possible, and anyone with a brain in the head knows it, is that employee hours can be cut back and there not be a loss of service IF the company is being managed properly to begin with.
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KrushGroove 
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| re: Papa Johns CEO responds to Affordable Healthcare Act media issues ... (Posted on 11/21/12 at 6:11 pm to germandawg)
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They just don't want anyone making big money off of health care.
Billy Tauzin agrees.
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FourZero
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| re: Papa Johns CEO responds to Affordable Healthcare Act media issues ... (Posted on 11/21/12 at 6:26 pm to BugAC)
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You wanted this A Want. You wanted exactly what is happening. Own it.
Outstanding.
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St Augustine 
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| re: Papa Johns CEO responds to Affordable Healthcare Act media issues ... (Posted on 11/21/12 at 6:33 pm to mograyback)
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He's advocating cutting people down under full time to save on health care. I think you just misunderstood me, and I wasn't very clear in the way I put it.
As any owner of a private company should do if it feels that it is the most efficient way to run their company. I guess they could always pay for the health insurance and lay a chunk of their workforce off instead....
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Elcid96
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| re: Papa Johns CEO responds to Affordable Healthcare Act media issues ... (Posted on 11/21/12 at 6:37 pm to germandawg)
Funny seems those who supported obamacare are delusional and clearly had no idea how businesses run if they thought they could implement any regulations they dam well pleased and it wouldn't have any effect on a business.
Simply math really. If I got one employee who I would have to carry insurance on who works 40 hours I just see if it would be cost effective to hire two people who only work 20 hours in order for me to avoid paying the health care.
Sure you have more jobs but they limited two people to the hours. But hey Forward!!!
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St Augustine
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| re: Papa Johns CEO responds to Affordable Healthcare Act media issues ... (Posted on 11/21/12 at 6:45 pm to a want)
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What are your (ya'lls) thoughts about lowered employee investment in their job when their hours are cut? They will presumably pick up other work which could minimize their 'dependency' on the Papa John's gig...potentially lowering quality of service.
How invested are pizza makers/delivery guys? I would tend to think anyone who worked in a papa john's franchise long term isn't exactly overly motivated for a lot more. And don't take my comment as a slight to them at all. I just don't really see the vast majority of Pizza makers going ape shite over an hour or two cut. Maybe they will grab something else to make up the slack but they aren't exactly irreplaceable.
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Draconian Sanctions
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| re: Papa Johns CEO responds to Affordable Healthcare Act media issues ... (Posted on 11/30/12 at 8:34 pm to LaBornNRaised)
Someone crunched the numbers, and Papa Johns would spend far less on employee health care than they do giving away one million pizzas like they do every year during football season.
Oh wait, they gave away 2 million this year.
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Diamondawg 
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| re: Papa Johns CEO responds to Affordable Healthcare Act media issues ... (Posted on 11/30/12 at 8:38 pm to Draconian Sanctions)
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Someone crunched the numbers,
Yeah - probably a democrat. They can't seem to get that debit/credit crap straight.
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Draconian Sanctions
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| re: Papa Johns CEO responds to Affordable Healthcare Act media issues ... (Posted on 11/30/12 at 8:40 pm to Diamondawg)
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Yeah - probably a democrat.
Translation: "I don't like what the numbers say, so I'm going to demonize the person who did the math rather than face the cognitive dissonance that the research presents to my own views."
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Diamondawg
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| re: Papa Johns CEO responds to Affordable Healthcare Act media issues ... (Posted on 11/30/12 at 8:45 pm to Draconian Sanctions)
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Translation: "I don't like what the numbers say, so I'm going to demonize the person who did the math rather than face the cognitive dissonance that the research presents to my own views."
Put the link up so we can do the math. You do realize that ACA is forever and the give away pizza can stop anytime, right?
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LSUconvert
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| re: Papa Johns CEO responds to Affordable Healthcare Act media issues ... (Posted on 11/30/12 at 9:10 pm to Aristo)
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I don't get how anyone thinks government run anything is efficient.
I had no idea it was possible to be this ignorant.
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tigerfoot 
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| re: Papa Johns CEO responds to Affordable Healthcare Act media issues ... (Posted on 11/30/12 at 9:10 pm to Diamondawg)
So prior to the change I could work at Papa Jhns for 35 hours with no benefits, now I can work at Papa Johns 34 hours with no benefits.
Seems to me he just gives his employees a 3 percent raise, they work less for same check and they don't give a damn about benefits anyway. It's pizza for Gods sake.
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bbrownso
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| re: Papa Johns CEO responds to Affordable Healthcare Act media issues ... (Posted on 11/30/12 at 9:50 pm to Draconian Sanctions)
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Translation: "I don't like what the numbers say, so I'm going to demonize the person who did the math rather than face the cognitive dissonance that the research presents to my own views."
Or I can conceptualize between something meant to attract more customers to Papa John's and added expenditures in running the business. Big difference and if you can't see that, then you need more help than I'm willing to give.
How many people do you know that choose what pizza to buy based on the benefits given to the employees making the pizza? I don't know anyone that uses that criteria in making a decision.
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Cajun Tigah
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| re: Papa Johns CEO responds to Affordable Healthcare Act media issues ... (Posted on 11/30/12 at 10:11 pm to Draconian Sanctions)
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Someone crunched the numbers, and Papa Johns would spend far less on employee health care than they do giving away one million pizzas like they do every year during football season. Oh wait, they gave away 2 million this year.
You can't be this dumb.
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Bard
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| re: Papa Johns CEO responds to Affordable Healthcare Act media issues ... (Posted on 11/30/12 at 10:17 pm to Draconian Sanctions)
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Someone crunched the numbers, and Papa Johns would spend far less on employee health care than they do giving away one million pizzas like they do every year during football season.
Link?
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Patrick O Rly
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| re: Papa Johns CEO responds to Affordable Healthcare Act media issues ... (Posted on 11/30/12 at 10:24 pm to Aristo)
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I don't get how anyone thinks government run anything is efficient.
I don't think efficiency is on the minds of a lot of progressives. There's this young kid in one of my classes. He's a pseudo-intellectual. He tried to tell me that Clint Eastwood was a better actor than a director. O_o. Anyway, we were discussing how the US Postal service is hemorrhaging money, and how it might be a good idea to just let private service handled mail delivery. This guy was like "Oh, I just don't trust them to do that." He gave no reason why he didn't trust private business to deliver mail. He was just scared.
And this is what we're up against. This guy is smarter than the average person, and he's still a dumbass. To him there's something inherently noble and trustworthy about government monopolies that don't have to worry about budget constraints.
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Bard
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| re: Papa Johns CEO responds to Affordable Healthcare Act media issues ... (Posted on 11/30/12 at 10:28 pm to Patrick O Rly)
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this young kid
That's the problem right there. He hasn't lived long enough, studied enough history or looked hard enough at his paycheck to understand the topic completely. Did you explain to him that FedEx and UPS are able to deliver things just fine AND turn a profit?
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Patrick O Rly
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| re: Papa Johns CEO responds to Affordable Healthcare Act media issues ... (Posted on 11/30/12 at 10:32 pm to Bard)
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Did you explain to him that FedEx and UPS are able to deliver things just fine AND turn a profit?
The conversation was cut a bit short. Our professor has a habit of starting discussions and then saying "Alright we need to move on." I think the teacher made a similar point, but again, he didn't trust private business.
I get it. Once upon a time I thought the government was looking out for me. I just want people to actually think what they believe out.
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