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Ray Ray Rodman  LSU Fan Gulf Shores/Orange Beach Member since Mar 2005 16643 posts

| re: NCAA gives former Miami players an ultimatum (Posted on 11/21/12 at 1:18 pm to sgallo3)
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and they should give a frick about this why?
Thats what I was thinking too. I would wad up the letter and throw in trash without a second thought.
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shel311 Nicholls St. Fan Orlando, Florida Member since Aug 2004 25940 posts

| re: NCAA gives former Miami players an ultimatum (Posted on 11/21/12 at 3:04 pm to H-Town Tiger)
I'm reading this thread just dumbfounded how virtually every poster's takeaway from this article is how screwed up Miami is, and basically NOTHING on what the NCAA is pulling here. WTF is going on with the MSB? 
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USMC Gators invading WCW Member since Oct 2011 10662 posts

| re: NCAA gives former Miami players an ultimatum (Posted on 11/21/12 at 3:21 pm to shel311)
USC fans should be loving what's about to happen to Miami.
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Sophandros  New Orleans Saints Fan R'Lyeh Member since Feb 2005 40191 posts

| re: NCAA gives former Miami players an ultimatum (Posted on 11/21/12 at 3:41 pm to the LSUSaint)
The NCAA is coming down hard regardless. And they aren't ever doing the death penalty again. They have no subpoena power and no bearing on their life. frick the NCAA.
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Sophandros  New Orleans Saints Fan R'Lyeh Member since Feb 2005 40191 posts

| re: NCAA gives former Miami players an ultimatum (Posted on 11/21/12 at 3:43 pm to shel311)
The frick? At least half of us have expressed severe disdain toward the NCAA. I even cussed at them.
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loweralabamatrojan  Southern Cal Fan Lower Alabama Member since Oct 2006 10360 posts

| re: NCAA gives former Miami players an ultimatum (Posted on 11/21/12 at 4:18 pm to USMC Gators)
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USC fans should be loving what's about to happen to Miami.
I absolutely despise the NCAA as an inept, corrupt and inherently biased organization. I wish Paul Dee were alive to see the U get hosed though. I do hate it for the current U fans and U players. Had nothing to do with it. Always the innocent that get phucked oer.
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USMC Gators invading WCW Member since Oct 2011 10662 posts

| re: NCAA gives former Miami players an ultimatum (Posted on 11/21/12 at 5:35 pm to loweralabamatrojan)
Except the program there doesn't exactly have a history of being "innocent." 
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Zamoro10 Member since Jul 2008 10669 posts

| re: NCAA gives former Miami players an ultimatum (Posted on 11/21/12 at 5:52 pm to USMC Gators)
The NCAA sucks and I generally root for any program over them. But Paul Dee made himself part of their compliance - as the head against USC - and that ridiculously-worded ruling. If he were alive, I'd cheer for Miami to get severe sanctions only to hear his comments and see him squirm and hopefully prompt changes to NCAA oversight from being ad hoc, subjective and often arbitrary. Still get a feeling the stooges will protect his memory and this won't change anything.
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loweralabamatrojan  Southern Cal Fan Lower Alabama Member since Oct 2006 10360 posts

| re: NCAA gives former Miami players an ultimatum (Posted on 11/23/12 at 7:48 am to Zamoro10)
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But Paul Dee made himself part of their compliance - as the head against USC - and that ridiculously-worded ruling. If he were alive, I'd cheer for Miami to get severe sanctions only to hear his comments and see him squirm and hopefully prompt changes to NCAA oversight from being ad hoc, subjective and often arbitrary.
"When he was alive I wished him dead, and now that he's dead I wish he were alive" - Anonymous SC fan
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silverthorn  LSU Fan Member since Nov 2011 360 posts

| re: NCAA gives former Miami players an ultimatum (Posted on 11/24/12 at 9:54 pm to Dubosed)
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what a debacle Miami has become.
How soon we forget when bama was knocking on the door of the death penalty.
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StrangeBrew  LSU Fan Salvation Army-Thanks Obama Member since May 2009 11481 posts

| re: NCAA gives former Miami players an ultimatum (Posted on 11/24/12 at 10:00 pm to bamafan425)
The players should return the letters with nudes of Donna Shalalia
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BamaDude06  Alabama Fan T-Town Member since Jan 2007 707 posts

| re: NCAA gives former Miami players an ultimatum (Posted on 11/24/12 at 10:25 pm to silverthorn)
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How soon we forget when bama was knocking on the door of the death penalty.
Although they said Alabama was "staring down the barrel of a gun," it later came out the death penalty was never even discussed, IIRC.
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Tiger in Texas  Ohio State Fan Houston, Texas Member since Sep 2004 10988 posts

| re: NCAA gives former Miami players an ultimatum (Posted on 11/25/12 at 12:14 pm to droman225)
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DEATH PENALTY!!!!!
They should get it, but they won't...but that being said, frick 'The U'...
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Swampcat  LSU Fan Member since Dec 2003 6055 posts

| re: NCAA gives former Miami players an ultimatum (Posted on 11/25/12 at 10:59 pm to droman225)
Thug U. At it again.
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H-Town Tiger  Virginia Tech Fan DIANELANEPANETRANE Member since Nov 2003 41030 posts

| re: NCAA gives former Miami players an ultimatum (Posted on 11/25/12 at 11:26 pm to BamaDude06)
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Although they said Alabama was "staring down the barrel of a gun," it later came out the death penalty was never even discussed, IIRC
that's because the DP is overkill. Too many innocent people, including opponents are damaged by it. It should never be considered.
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I'm reading this thread just dumbfounded how virtually every poster's takeaway from this article is how screwed up Miami is, and basically NOTHING on what the NCAA is pulling here
Sadly people like to root for "the man" and or let personal bias cloud their judgment. They never think giving one group too much power will ever hurt them, and that only the guilty will get punished, its very short sighted.
This post was edited on 11/25 at 11:28 pm
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SlowFlowPro  Stanford Fan Equality is a circle, not a = Member since Jan 2004 263308 posts

| re: NCAA gives former Miami players an ultimatum (Posted on 11/26/12 at 12:07 am to H-Town Tiger)
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They never think giving one group too much power will ever hurt them, and that only the guilty will get punished,
well, to be fair, this is a great example of how the NCAA really lacks a lot of power. it's showing its arse on this one i think people would be more harsh towards teh NCAA if this stunt wasn't so ridiculous and pathetic in the first place
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jmarto1  LSU Fan Houma, LA Member since Mar 2008 10034 posts

| re: NCAA gives former Miami players an ultimatum (Posted on 11/26/12 at 12:24 am to USMC Gators)
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Except the program there doesn't exactly have a history of being "innocent."
Dirtiest program we have seen in a long time. Should have gotten the death penalty a long time ago imo.
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songofthesword  Arkansas Fan lexington, ky Member since Sep 2011 3582 posts

| re: NCAA gives former Miami players an ultimatum (Posted on 11/26/12 at 1:48 am to jmarto1)
this confirms for the most part there is no slap on the rist here. either they and the shite is not as bad as NS says it is, but it's still bad enough to get scholly reductions, to allow everyone on the team to transfer wtih no penalty instantly as well as a 3 year bowl ban on top of what htey have done so far (penn state got 5 years I think total) or they dont' talk, they take NS's word and it's lights out. there is no scenario where they get off with a slap on the rist.
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petar .gif) Miami (FL) Fan Miami Member since May 2009 4950 posts

| re: NCAA gives former Miami players an ultimatum (Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:59 am to jmarto1)
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Dirtiest program we have seen in a long time. Should have gotten the death penalty a long time ago imo.
Do you really think that things like this aren't going on at Ohio State, USC, Auburn, Etc.? I mean we had a dirty program, but i doubt this kind of stuff isn't going on every where considering it always has and has continued to surface at different universities
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