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Ohio State - computer rankings
Posted on 11/20/12 at 8:38 am
Posted on 11/20/12 at 8:38 am
Under the old BCS computer rankings - using scoring margin....
Ohio State is ranked #25
Sagarin rankings -
In current BCS - only winning and losing matters; the score margin is of no consequence, which makes it very "politically correct".
However it is less accurate in its predictions for
upcoming games than is the PURE POINTS, in which the score margin matters and is the best predictor of future games. The teams are now WELL CONNECTED and so all three ratings are UNBIASED.
It always amazes me that if the computer programmers don't trust their program being used by the BCS - what's the point in using it?
Bama is #1, Notre Dame is #4
Ohio State is ranked #25
Sagarin rankings -
In current BCS - only winning and losing matters; the score margin is of no consequence, which makes it very "politically correct".
However it is less accurate in its predictions for
upcoming games than is the PURE POINTS, in which the score margin matters and is the best predictor of future games. The teams are now WELL CONNECTED and so all three ratings are UNBIASED.
It always amazes me that if the computer programmers don't trust their program being used by the BCS - what's the point in using it?
Bama is #1, Notre Dame is #4
This post was edited on 11/20/12 at 8:39 am
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Posted on 11/20/12 at 8:40 am to Zamoro10
I really wish OSU wasn't on probation this year. I genuinely want to see them play in a bowl game as I have zero clue how good that team is.
Posted on 11/20/12 at 8:51 am to FootballNostradamus
There are times where we look great and other times where we look god awful. I have no idea on how good this team is either and I've watched every single snap. 
Posted on 11/20/12 at 8:52 am to FootballNostradamus
quote:well they are better than Nebraska, that's a starting point
I really wish OSU wasn't on probation this year. I genuinely want to see them play in a bowl game as I have zero clue how good that team is.
Posted on 11/20/12 at 8:53 am to Zamoro10
Just curious, but was this BCS logic used back in 2002 when Ohio State was squeaking past opponents almost every single week?
Posted on 11/20/12 at 9:02 am to KillerNut9
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Just curious, but was this BCS logic used back in 2002 when Ohio State was squeaking past opponents almost every single week?
They had some good blowout wins early that year; Washington State was a top 10 team they beat by like 2 TDs and they ripped Texas Tech a new one I think.
And the computers didn't matter because they were undefeated and the polls took over
Posted on 11/20/12 at 9:06 am to FootballNostradamus
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I really wish OSU wasn't on probation this year. I genuinely want to see them play in a bowl game as I have zero clue how good that team is.
Depending on the opponent they could really make you shake your head either way. I think they could stay very close to a team like Bama, in that they really have a good D-line to stop/contain the running game, and they have enough talent in the secondary to give AJ some problems.
On offense they have a guy similar in style of play to Johnny football obviously, but his WRs are not as helpful in making plays for him, and he throws a few bad passes every game as well. I'd take their power running game with Hyde/Smith and put it pretty high up there though, so that would be a fun battle to watch.
I think they could go 50/50 with most of the teams in the top 10, and give them about a 30% shot against Bama, and about a 20% shot against Oregon, because of the strengths of the OSU team
Posted on 11/20/12 at 9:11 am to Zamoro10
It seems perfectly logical to determine a champion based on corrupt computer rankings and biased pollsters. Every other sport who determines a champ on the field should consider this method.
Posted on 11/20/12 at 9:13 am to Buckeye06
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I think they could go 50/50 with most of the teams in the top 10, and give them about a 30% shot against Bama, and about a 20% shot against Oregon, because of the strengths of the OSU team
Bama and Oregon aren't that much better ,if at all, than the rest of the top 10
Posted on 11/20/12 at 9:30 am to jdg91878
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Bama and Oregon aren't that much better ,if at all, than the rest of the top 10
Well I think Bama and Oregon both can beat you in more ways than the other top 10 teams. I honestly feel that UF, LSU, USCe, and ND are very 1 dimensional. They have some good wins, but I just feel like playing them you always think you can win cause they don't really have blowout potential often.
Bama and Oregon do IMO
Posted on 11/20/12 at 9:38 am to Buckeye06
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Well I think Bama and Oregon both can beat you in more ways than the other top 10 teams. I honestly feel that UF, LSU, USCe, and ND are very 1 dimensional. They have some good wins, but I just feel like playing them you always think you can win cause they don't really have blowout potential often.
Bama and Oregon do IMO
Bama has blowout potential solely because outside of LSU and A&M they've played the Little Sisters of the Poor. They're a solid, power rushing team with little WR ability and a slow defense that is predicated on stopping one-dimensional power rushing attacks from the SEC.
The worst part of all this is Bama is likely gonna play Notre Dame in the NC game, and they'll probably stonewall the Irish because they have no skill players out wide and an inexperienced QB. And then all we'll hear about is how dominant Bama's defense was when all it was is a product of the offense it got to face.
I firmly believe any spread attack would go up and down the field on Bama just like A&M's did. Their LBs are slow, they don't have a single dominant edge pass rusher, and their DBs aren't great in coverage. Put them against your traditional, power-I SEC offenses and they'll look like the 85 Bears. Have them play someone like A&M, Baylor, Clemson, La Tech, etc and they'll give up 30+ easily.
JMO. Ohio State would match-up (from what I've seen) very well with Bama.
Posted on 11/20/12 at 9:41 am to FootballNostradamus
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The worst part of all this is Bama is likely gonna play Notre Dame in the NC game, and they'll probably stonewall the Irish because they have no skill players out wide and an inexperienced QB. And then all we'll hear about is how dominant Bama's defense was when all it was is a product of the offense it got to face.
I believe this too. Bama catches a break again. Getting the perfect matchup for them.
As great as LSU was last year, they also played into Bama's hands with their style and conservative power game.
It would be nice to see Bama get spread out for once in the title game and make them chase.
Posted on 11/20/12 at 10:06 am to FootballNostradamus
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Have them play someone like A&M, Baylor, Clemson, La Tech, etc and they'll give up 30+ easily
Nobody hates Bama as much as I do, but come on now. None of those teams you mention, plus the "etc" easily score 30 on them.
And, by the way, they did play A&M who not only didn't easily score 30 on them, they didn't score 30 at all.
Posted on 11/20/12 at 10:11 am to FootballNostradamus
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they'll probably stonewall the Irish because they have no skill players out wide
where do ppl get these ideas?
Davaris Daniels - 4 star
TJ Jones - 4 star
Davonte Neal - 5 star
Chris Brown 4 - star
(the above have pro potential)
and then:
John Goodman - 4 star
Robby Toma - 3 star
Posted on 11/20/12 at 10:13 am to Zamoro10
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As great as LSU was last year, they also played into Bama's hands with their style and conservative power game.
ND has a mobile QB, LSU did not. Plus, the IQ of LSUs QB was likely at room temperature levels.
Posted on 11/20/12 at 10:19 am to rocket31
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ND has a mobile QB, LSU did not. Plus, the IQ of LSUs QB was likely at room temperature levels.
I worry about ND's skill position guys getting open often enough. The ND qb is mobile, but he's not Denard Robinson good to where he can potentially take over a game IMO. He needs his TE and a couple of his WRs to make some plays to give him more space.
I still think ND lost to Stanford
Posted on 11/20/12 at 10:22 am to Buckeye06
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I still think ND lost to Stanford
Yeah, and make no mistake, Stanford has 3 fantastic linebackers and a solid D-line.
But they're Bama-lite.
ND is basically like Stanford playing Bama for the title. Just a terrible NC matchup for fans and tailor-made for Bama. I just feel anyone else makes it more interesting.
This post was edited on 11/20/12 at 10:23 am
Posted on 11/20/12 at 10:24 am to Buckeye06
Well, that "TD" for stanford would have just tied the game...ANYWAYS...
IF the game with Bama happens, their offense plays right into the hands of ND as well. Immobile QBs and smash mouth running games do not perform well vs the ND front seven which is full of NFL players.
I was more worried about USC w Barkely than Bama. You're not going to be able to run on ND, but you can pass ...
IF the game with Bama happens, their offense plays right into the hands of ND as well. Immobile QBs and smash mouth running games do not perform well vs the ND front seven which is full of NFL players.
I was more worried about USC w Barkely than Bama. You're not going to be able to run on ND, but you can pass ...
Posted on 11/20/12 at 10:26 am to Zamoro10
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Just a terrible NC matchup for fans and tailor-made for Bama
the tears of your pac12 homerism are mighty sweet this morning. 
Posted on 11/20/12 at 10:34 am to jdg91878
quote:name a year it hasnt gotten the top 2 right. it does have its flaws but it always gets the top 2 in there
It seems perfectly logical to determine a champion based on corrupt computer rankings and biased pollsters. Every other sport who determines a champ on the field should consider this method.
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