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Erin Burnett badgering an Israel General with a guest who seems to be strongly anti Israel. Constantly reporting the tally of women and children killed while chilling near Hamas fighters. I mean just painting a bad picture of Israel. Now Piers Morgan badgering the Israeli President.


Since when does it mean you are evil if you don't like Israel or support them in ALL things? Who gives a shit?






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joshnorris14




There is a great deal of ignorance in America and the West with regard to HAMAS. Note that all of the combat in the current conflict is around Gaza. All of the rockets have been coming from Gaza.

Gaza is controlled by HAMAS.

HAMAS is NOT a Palestinian nationalist movement. They are a Jihadist movement. They were formed by the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt as the Muslim Brotherhood wing in Israel.

Their goal is the establishment of an Islamic state ruled by Shariah law.

Their charter calls for the destruction of Israel.

HAMAS is not fighting to get some olive farms back. HAMAS is fighting as part of the global jihadist movement. They are supported by Iran and by wealthy Sauds, Qataris and other Muslims around the world.

HAMAS is not seeking a "two-state solution." HAMAS is seeking to replace Israel with an Islamic state along the lines of Taliban Afghanistan. There is NOTHING good that can come out of any state ruled by HAMAS under any circumstances. HAMAS is an enemy of the entire Western civilization.






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There is a great deal of ignorance in America and the West with regard to HAMAS. Note that all of the combat in the current conflict is around Gaza. All of the rockets have been coming from Gaza.

Gaza is controlled by HAMAS.

HAMAS is NOT a Palestinian nationalist movement. They are a Jihadist movement. They were formed by the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt as the Muslim Brotherhood wing in Israel.

Their goal is the establishment of an Islamic state ruled by Shariah law.

Their charter calls for the destruction of Israel.

HAMAS is not fighting to get some olive farms back. HAMAS is fighting as part of the global jihadist movement. They are supported by Iran and by wealthy Sauds, Qataris and other Muslims around the world.

HAMAS is not seeking a "two-state solution." HAMAS is seeking to replace Israel with an Islamic state along the lines of Taliban Afghanistan. There is NOTHING good that can come out of any state ruled by HAMAS under any circumstances. HAMAS is an enemy of the entire Western civilization.


This defining of enemies are so bull shite. It like saying that America invade Iraq and the citizen tell the muslim world " It the American government and the american military invading your country, not the American citizen. We're innocent bystanders in this entire war."


Blah blah blah. If you are on that land you are part of their crew, if not they wouldn't have the power to do what they do. End of story.






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HAMAS is NOT a Palestinian nationalist movement. They are a Jihadist movement.


we hard the same thing about PLO back in the 80's from Israel when they said there is no way in hell we can negotiate with a terrorist organization (hint PLO never recognized the right of Israel to exist back then untill they they sat down with them) Look what happened they made a peace agreement with the PLO and they did negotiate with them. Same thing will happen to hamas...... and Yes, in the eyes of the pals, hamas a nationalist movement, less corrupt and more patriots than PLO.

in my humble opinion you have no fricking clue






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HAMAS is NOT a Palestinian nationalist movement.
They are a Jihadist movement. we hard the same thing about PLO back in the 80's from Israel when they said there is no way in hell we can negotiate with a terrorist organization (hint PLO never recognized the right of Israel to exist back then untill they they sat down with them) Look what happened they made a peace agreement with the PLO and they did negotiate with them. Same thing will happen to hamas...... and Yes, in the eyes of the pals, hamas a nationalist movement, less corrupt and more patriots than PLO. in my humble opinion you have no fricking clue

They also said the same thing about Irgun, the IRA and the ANC, but all of their leaders were eventually greeted at the White House as statemen.






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How many Jews live in Gaza? 100% effective ethnic cleansing is quite the achievement for the Arabs. The leaders of Hamas want the same results for all of the Middle East.

Hamas' only two demands throughout his conflict is that Israel quit going around the world assassinating its leaders and lift the bloackade. That sounds reasonable to me.






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Now you're just making up crap. There is no treaty between Hamas and Israel,





Not quite, I'm referring to the treaty btwn Israel and Egypt after the Camp David Accords...it clearly gives Israel the right to control it's borders (including Gaza) and to inspect goods crossing it's borders including the Med Sea.

Even if this doesn't exist are you Conde,Ning them for stopping missile and weapons flowing into their country that will eventually kill their citizens?

That's laughable






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SammyTiger
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But they have imposed a naval blockade on Gaza ever since they withdrew. Did you know that naval blockades are considered acts of war, and that it was Egypt's blockade of the Straits of Tiran that was Israel's justification for launching the Six Day War?


1. Israel lets in all good and aid needed in gaza. they don't let in weapons.

2. IF there was no blockade Hamas would have much more effective rockets, and this would lead to more ISraelis dead.

3. If israel withdraws these "freedom fighters" or "resisters" become just terrorists, which is what they are. People who are content to fire rockets at civilian targets aren't going to be content with whatever they are given. THey will sue the same tactics to get more.






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We fire drone missiles and don't even bat an eyelash.


on islamic terrorists. oh the horror.


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We have detonated nuclear weapons on people.


which saved lives on both sides if you had just an inkling of knowledge on the situation and history

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We have invaded countries multiple times in the last 50 years.


and freed more people than the rest of the world combined IN OUR HISTORY AS A NATION. and removed threats to us.

Sure we have screwed up.

But you prove again how young and dumb you really are joshie.

here is some more info for you in case you try to respond with BS like TRACKFAN did before in this thread.

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1. Israel lets in all good and aid needed in gaza. they don't let in weapons.

bullshite!

LINK

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2. IF there was no blockade Hamas would have much more effective rockets, and this would lead to more ISraelis dead.

Egypt had justifications for its blockade also but it was still an act of war.

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3. If israel withdraws these "freedom fighters" or "resisters" become just terrorists, which is what they are.

Yeah, they're terrorists, just like the founding fathers of Israel such as your beloved Irgun and Stern Gang.






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on islamic terrorists. oh the horror

The U.S. doesn't oppose terror, its supports terror and occasionally commits terror.
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which saved lives on both sides if you had just an inkling of knowledge on the situation and history

bullshite! Talk about jingoistic revisionism.

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and freed more people than the rest of the world combined.

More bullshite! More jingoistic revisionism.






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joshnorris14
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Please show me where and when the leadership of Muslim Brotherhood changed the fundamental purpose of the organization to justify your original claim?


Your statement has no relevance. An organizations "purpose" is irrelevant if people aren't being driven to the organization. Do you think the organization could exist without individuals? My claim is that US foreign policy is radicalizing people so that there are organizations like al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood.






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on islamic terrorists. oh the horror.


On innocent civilians.






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SammyTiger
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bullshite!

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That article is far from concrete proof needed to back up a bold claim of BULL shite. Seems to me like it is looking for answers not offering them.

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Egypt had justifications for its blockade also but it was still an act of war.


Palestinian extremists and nationalist have been attacking Israel since it was founded i would say they are in a long drawn out war, and protecting their people the only way they know how.


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Yeah, they're terrorists, just like the founding fathers of Israel such as your beloved Irgun and Stern Gang.


Irgun and the Stern Gang were eventually reigned in and controlled by the legitimate Israeli government. There is no one trying to reign in the Hamas, because they are in charge.






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