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Wolfhound45 
LSU Fan
WhereverTheArmySendsUs
Member since Nov 2009
7479 posts
| re: We ain't seen nothin yet... (Posted on 11/19/12 at 9:25 am to doubleb)
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What's a cool 100K coming out a rich guy's pocket?
Because everyone that employs 50 or more employees is a "rich guy" in your mind. Unbelievable.
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wavebreaker
LSU Fan
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2012
467 posts
| re: We ain't seen nothin yet... (Posted on 11/19/12 at 9:25 am to Jax-Tiger)
But but Harry Reid just said this week regulations have never cost a single job!
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Wolfhound45
LSU Fan
WhereverTheArmySendsUs
Member since Nov 2009
7479 posts
| re: We ain't seen nothin yet... (Posted on 11/19/12 at 9:26 am to LSUwag)
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Part time employment is the new norm in America.
Yes it is.
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NC_Tigah
LSU Fan
Member since Sep 2003
40151 posts
| re: We ain't seen nothin yet... (Posted on 11/19/12 at 9:29 am to BFIV)
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As I understand it, as the law now stands, this is perfectly legal to sidestep the penalty by cutting employee hours down
and it will likely improve U3 unemployment numbers.
Winning!
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Robin Masters 
Alabama Fan
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
1629 posts
| re: We ain't seen nothin yet... (Posted on 11/19/12 at 9:30 am to Libertariantiger)
Who the frick couldn't see this coming? What bizarro world did anyone who supported aca grow up in where causes do not have effects? Or was getting the majority of people on govt hc the desired effect. Lying, socialist frickers. You know there are countries which have socialism you can move to, you don't have to steal ours.
If you supported Obama and the aca you are a stupid myopic frickhead and your parents are frickheads too because they raised you.
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OldSouth
LSU Fan
Folsom, LA
Member since Oct 2011
4275 posts
| re: We ain't seen nothin yet... (Posted on 11/19/12 at 9:34 am to Robin Masters)
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Or was getting the majority of people on govt hc the desired effect.
Answered your own question.
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Bloodworth 
New Orleans Saints Fan
North Ga
Member since Oct 2007
1414 posts
| re: We ain't seen nothin yet... (Posted on 11/19/12 at 9:45 am to BFIV)
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And the beat goes on...
Just did Open Enrollment for my Health Care Plan for 2013....Premiums going up for me and family....Company Enrollment Information comes right out and atributes incease in premium to Obamacare! Ryder Corporation.
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doubleb
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
2926 posts
| re: We ain't seen nothin yet... (Posted on 11/19/12 at 9:46 am to Wolfhound45)
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Because everyone that employs 50 or more employees is a "rich guy" in your mind. Unbelievable
Turn on your sarcasm detector sir.
People think it's just 2000 bucks when in reality, we are talking 100s of thousands of bucks here.
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Wolfhound45
LSU Fan
WhereverTheArmySendsUs
Member since Nov 2009
7479 posts
| re: We ain't seen nothin yet... (Posted on 11/19/12 at 9:48 am to OldSouth)
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Answered your own question.
Yes he did. The desired end state is absolute control (from the party that is pro-choice) by the state.
"They" know better (whoever this nameless, faceless "they" is).
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Robin Masters
Alabama Fan
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
1629 posts
| re: We ain't seen nothin yet... (Posted on 11/19/12 at 9:57 am to Wolfhound45)
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Yes he did. The desired end state is absolute control (from the party that is pro-choice) by the state.
No doubt the powers that be knew what they were doing but I think the dem sheeple really just think Obama farts sunshine and rainbows and the aca would have zero negative fallout. If it sounds good, well by golly, it must be good too. Doesn't anyone question authority anymore?
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HubbaBubba 
USA Fan
Bloemee, TX
Member since Oct 2010
4986 posts
| re: We ain't seen nothin yet... (Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:05 am to Robin Masters)
The end-game to all this is.....................
Everyone is covered, birth to death, and.......
You'll get what you get, and if you can afford supplemental care/insurance, you can get that, too.......
........but you have to be taxed extra for being an elitist, rich guy who has to have better care than others.
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BFIV
Member since Apr 2012
1009 posts
| re: We ain't seen nothin yet... (Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:06 am to Bloodworth)
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Just did Open Enrollment for my Health Care Plan for 2013....Premiums going up for me and family...
Same thing here. They didn't come right out and attribute the increase to Obamacare, though. FWIW, our premiums increased $1300.00 with a higher deductible, higher OOP expense, also.
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Wolfhound45
LSU Fan
WhereverTheArmySendsUs
Member since Nov 2009
7479 posts
| re: We ain't seen nothin yet... (Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:14 am to Robin Masters)
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If it sounds good, well by golly, it must be good too.
The best analogy I have found lately is that the Democratic Party is judged based upon intentions, the Republican Party based upon actions. Sums up this issue very well.
"We meant to give you better healthcare. Just did not work out this time. Give us xx more years and xx more billions of dollars and we will get it fixed. And oh by the way, it would have worked if the Republicans had not blocked us."
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Champagne
New Orleans Saints Fan
French and Spanish Empire Border
Member since Oct 2007
7939 posts
| re: We ain't seen nothin yet... (Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:00 am to Libertariantiger)
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It's sad, but if a single woman with two maybe three kids (cant remember exactly) who receives no support wanted to work, she would have to make 60k a year to surpass what the government would pay her in checks and services. This assumes she takes full advantage of all programs. Welfare, housing, food stamps, medic aide, etc. I read that off a Yahoo report not long ago.
Yeah, I remember reading something like this, too. That young mom referenced by the OP may be doing it wrong. She needs to fully explore the welfare benefits value that would accrue if she sat home and compare that to her earning potential. Based on what I've read in the past, if she sits home, she may be better of financially.
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Fishwater 
Ole Miss Fan
reasoning with hurricane season
Member since Aug 2010
3227 posts
| re: We ain't seen nothin yet... (Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:15 am to Champagne)
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Yeah, I remember reading something like this, too. That young mom referenced by the OP may be doing it wrong. She needs to fully explore the welfare benefits value that would accrue if she sat home and compare that to her earning potential. Based on what I've read in the past, if she sits home, she may be better of financially.
Agreed. I hate to say it, but I will. If the Gov't is going to let her stay at home and be paid, then do it. Why should she bust her arse to makes ends meet when she doesn't have to? This is the mind set of your country. its fricked like Lindsay Lohan on a Saturday night in NYC.
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ShoeBang 
LA-Lafayette Fan
Member since May 2012
2102 posts
| re: We ain't seen nothin yet... (Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:34 am to Fishwater)
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Yeah, I remember reading something like this, too. That young mom referenced by the OP may be doing it wrong. She needs to fully explore the welfare benefits value that would accrue if she sat home and compare that to her earning potential. Based on what I've read in the past, if she sits home, she may be better of financially.
She will be denied for the benefits because she has made too much money in the past year.
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EST
LSU Fan
Investigating
Member since Oct 2003
10903 posts
| re: We ain't seen nothin yet... (Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:56 am to BFIV)
That is exactly what Obamacare rules are set up to do - get as many people going directly to government for insurance.
Obamacare is NOT about health insurance. Its about liberals controlling your life. Wake up.
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Robin Masters
Alabama Fan
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
1629 posts
| re: We ain't seen nothin yet... (Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:59 am to Fishwater)
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Agreed. I hate to say it, but I will. If the Gov't is going to let her stay at home and be paid, then do it. Why should she bust her arse to makes ends meet when she doesn't have to? This is the mind set of your country. its fricked like Lindsay Lohan on a Saturday night in NYC
I can think of many reasons. Maybe she aspires to be more than what she is currently? How can you grow professionally if you are sitting at home? Thankfully, some people can see beyond their next paycheck and look to a brighter future, despite what dems would have them believe, they are not all victims with no chance of self reliance.
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Champagne
New Orleans Saints Fan
French and Spanish Empire Border
Member since Oct 2007
7939 posts
| re: We ain't seen nothin yet... (Posted on 11/22/12 at 7:44 pm to LSUwag)
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Part time employment is the new norm in America.
. . . and it is richly deserved.
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TupeloTiger
LSU Fan
Tupelo,Ms.[via Bastrop,La.]
Member since Jul 2004
2193 posts
| re: We ain't seen nothin yet... (Posted on 11/22/12 at 8:05 pm to Champagne)
Obamacare is causing unemployment. I have seen it first hand. A local businessman with 60 employees and 2 stores is going to cut his employees to 49 right after Christmas, so he doesn't HAVE to buy Ins. or pay the fine. He told me this last week. Another one told me Wed. goodbye as well as a delivery man that Friday was their last day. Their Memphis owners were cutting back to prevent buying Ins.. This was a well known business in this area. My wife's Surgery unit at the hospital is being cut from 5 to 2 on staff workers due to Obamacare. Their whole dept. is cutting from 70 to 60 because of Obamacare cutting hospital and Doctors payments next year. They are adjusting now,not waiting. All LPN's are being cut and using RN's only due to Obamacare. A 39 yr. old divorced mother of 2 told my wife, she didn't know what she was going to do. Shes a diabetes specialist LPN and is being let go due to Obamacare. The news media needs to report the truth here, IF they would.
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