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SlowFlowPro  Stanford Fan Equality is a circle, not a = Member since Jan 2004 263571 posts
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| re: Hostess files BK. Go to page 11 of the bk petition and what do you notice? (Posted on 11/16/12 at 10:20 am to WildTchoupitoulas)
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To this day I don't undetsatnd why conservatives HATE American workers.
seems like in this instance it's a question of why this union hates American workers
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Newbomb Turk  Navy Fan perfectanschlagen Member since May 2008 9855 posts

| re: Hostess files BK. Go to page 11 of the bk petition and what do you notice? (Posted on 11/16/12 at 10:21 am to WildTchoupitoulas)
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To this day I don't undetsatnd why conservatives HATE American workers.
HOLY shite -- If being a complete f*cking MORON was a virtue, you'd have your ticket punched to Heaven with a reserved seat right next to God. You are one stupid mother f*cker.
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prplhze2000  LSU Fan Parts Unknown Member since Jan 2007 29263 posts

| re: Hostess files BK. Go to page 11 of the bk petition and what do you notice? (Posted on 11/16/12 at 10:21 am to RogerTheShrubber)
not disputing that.
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tigeraddict  LSU Fan Baton Rouge Member since Mar 2007 4437 posts

| re: Hostess files BK. Go to page 11 of the bk petition and what do you notice? (Posted on 11/16/12 at 10:26 am to WildTchoupitoulas)
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That's fine as long as it doesn't involve Americans living in the streets.
The company gave them fair warning. They couldt stay in busuiness if the strike continued. The teamsters said they had looked at Hostess' books and warned the Union striking that this wasnt a ploy it was real, and they still striked
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ironsides  LSU Fan new york, ny Member since May 2006 4408 posts

| re: Hostess files BK. Go to page 11 of the bk petition and what do you notice? (Posted on 11/16/12 at 10:30 am to RogerTheShrubber)
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Hostess signed the contracts. They are at fault.
Co-signed and negotiated in good faith by the Unions that should have done the math and understood the economic implications of their negotiation. Why do unions think they are more special than any other american worker?
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ShortyRob  LSU Fan Savannah, GA Member since Oct 2008 24010 posts

| re: Hostess files BK. Go to page 11 of the bk petition and what do you notice? (Posted on 11/16/12 at 10:43 am to WildTchoupitoulas)
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That's fine as long as it doesn't involve Americans living in the streets. To this day I don't undetsatnd why conservatives HATE American workers.
Unions hate workers and have the ULTIMATE "I got mine jack" mentality. I've wathed one union after another accept future job restrictions in excahange for higher salaries/benefits NOW. UPS workers did just that when I lived in Louisville over a decade ago. They could give a frick if their salaries mean that fewer people can work. They just want their shite now. Hell, they don't even care if their salaries may eventually bankrupt the company and kill off jobs as long as the bankrupting happens after they get theirs.
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CajunAlum Tiger Fan  LSU Fan Broussard Member since Jan 2008 1583 posts

| re: Hostess files BK. Go to page 11 of the bk petition and what do you notice? (Posted on 11/16/12 at 10:45 am to RogerTheShrubber)
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My first experience with a union was the teamsters at a trade show where their contract required three men to operate a fork lift. Their "customer service skills" were also shite.
That's my experience as well, got chewed out for trying to change a light bulb in our booth in Chicago. We had to submit a formal maintenance request and wait until the 2 guys came by to fill out their paperwork and replace the bulb with the one we had in our closet. I have no idea how much they charged.
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CITWTT  LSU Fan baton rouge Member since Sep 2005 25327 posts

| re: Hostess files BK. Go to page 11 of the bk petition and what do you notice? (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:02 am to CajunAlum Tiger Fan)
I was going to be reported to the big wigs for working through my break period to get a rush job done. I was planning on taking it once finished with the task. The union man working a particular bit of equipment improperly made me do the job five times as a result of him having the wrong setting to determine the metals uses to make it.
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RogerTheShrubber  LSU Fan Juneau, AK Member since Jan 2009 72111 posts
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| re: Hostess files BK. Go to page 11 of the bk petition and what do you notice? (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:05 am to WildTchoupitoulas)
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This attitude is what's wrong with America today. "frick Americans, I hope they die in the gutter! I got MINE, Jack!"
What's wrong with America is that there are people who actually believe what you typed.
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UncleFestersLegs Columbia MO Member since Nov 2010 544 posts

| re: Hostess files BK. Go to page 11 of the bk petition and what do you notice? (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:30 am to RogerTheShrubber)
Twinkies got Bained by Ripplewood Holdings 
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Newbomb Turk  Navy Fan perfectanschlagen Member since May 2008 9855 posts

| re: Hostess files BK. Go to page 11 of the bk petition and what do you notice? (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:44 am to ShortyRob)
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Unions hate workers and have the ULTIMATE "I got mine jack" mentality.
It's more of that -- they want to be FULL PARTNERS when times are good -- and get more than their "fair share" due to the "sweat on their backs" that produced that evil profit. When times are bad, they simply want to be extremely overpaid employees, while management is completely responsible for all the loses. So, when times are good, they threaten strikes knowing that the laws in are their favor and knowing that management has to capitulate or lose out on making profits during the good times. When times go bad, they refuse to scale back and strike when management explains AND SHOWS that their current arrangement will drive the company out of business. But, they still strike and run the company into the ground because of the blackmail they used during good times.
This post was edited on 11/16 at 11:47 am
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WildTchoupitoulas Member since Jan 2010 10772 posts

| re: Hostess files BK. Go to page 11 of the bk petition and what do you notice? (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:51 am to RogerTheShrubber)
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What's wrong with America is that there are people who actually believe what you typed.
Tell it to the poster hoping American workers end up living on the street.
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igoringa  LSU Fan Tejas Member since Jun 2007 9289 posts
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| re: Hostess files BK. Go to page 11 of the bk petition and what do you notice? (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:54 am to WildTchoupitoulas)
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That's fine as long as it doesn't involve Americans living in the streets.
If these bakers end up on the street, that is on them. They CHOSE not to work. Period.
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Interception Providence Fan Member since Nov 2008 8701 posts

| re: Hostess files BK. Go to page 11 of the bk petition and what do you notice? (Posted on 11/16/12 at 12:05 pm to SlowFlowPro)
<--------- Hopes Bain buys Hostess
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darkhorse Member since Aug 2012 2376 posts

| re: Hostess files BK. Go to page 11 of the bk petition and what do you notice? (Posted on 11/16/12 at 12:10 pm to Kickadawgitfeelsgood)
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they should come back go earth and quit thinking 2 Ding Dongs is worth $1.19
They don't control the prices, I believe that is the stores
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WildTchoupitoulas Member since Jan 2010 10772 posts

| re: Hostess files BK. Go to page 11 of the bk petition and what do you notice? (Posted on 11/16/12 at 12:17 pm to igoringa)
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If these bakers end up on the street, that is on them. They CHOSE not to work. Period.
Wrong. No Americans deserve to live on the streets. NONE. PERIOD. We're not just talking about any human beings here, we're talking about Americans. Also keep in mind that the union voted to strike, and I doubt it was unanimous. I don't know why you hate Americans.
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UncleFestersLegs Columbia MO Member since Nov 2010 544 posts

| re: Hostess files BK. Go to page 11 of the bk petition and what do you notice? (Posted on 11/16/12 at 12:19 pm to Interception)
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Hopes Bain buys Hostess
You won't hear anything about Ripplewood form either the mainstream media or the Teleprompter in chief. Do a little digging around and you will discover why. Suggest search terms "tim collins gephardt"
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fleaux  LSU Fan section 0 Member since Aug 2012 1734 posts

| re: Hostess files BK. Go to page 11 of the bk petition and what do you notice? (Posted on 11/16/12 at 12:26 pm to WildTchoupitoulas)
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don't know why you hate Americans.
I don't know why you hate people who are smarter than you, but you sure keep arguing with them ..... 
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CITWTT  LSU Fan baton rouge Member since Sep 2005 25327 posts

| re: Hostess files BK. Go to page 11 of the bk petition and what do you notice? (Posted on 11/16/12 at 12:27 pm to WildTchoupitoulas)
WORKERS work for a pre-agreed monetary return on thier labor capital. Strikers are not working for a living, they are having a bitch fest. If the choose to not work which will effect thier ability to pay THIER bills it is thier own damned fault in bad decision making, and the result is on thier own heads.
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hawkster Member since Aug 2010 4478 posts

| re: Hostess files BK. Go to page 11 of the bk petition and what do you notice? (Posted on 11/16/12 at 12:35 pm to prplhze2000)
Obama has an answer. Raise the cost of Twinkies for the rich and make them pay their fair share. I think the cost would be about $50.000 per twinkle, give or take.
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