Hostess files BK. Go to page 11 of the bk petition and what do you notice? - Page 2 - TigerDroppings.com

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re: Hostess files BK. Go to page 11 of the bk petition and what do you notice?


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8,500 union workers are causing 18,500 workers to lose their jobs because they wouldn't take a pay cut that was needed for the business to stay open.


The other 10,000 workers couldn't learn how to bake?






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re: Hostess files BK. Go to page 11 of the bk petition and what do you notice?


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The other 10,000 workers couldn't learn how to bake?










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weagle99
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I was being sarcastic. I did hear that non-union workers refused to cross the lines. If so, screw them.


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The General
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re: Hostess files BK. Go to page 11 of the bk petition and what do you notice?


From the Schedules in the filing:

Bakery & Confectionery Union & Industry
International Pension FundBakery & Confectionery
Union & Industry International Pension


FundATTN: Robert J. Bergin
Tel: 301-468-3742

UnionHealth and Welfare/Pension
$944,158,000

This number is crazy! Anyone want to call Mr. Bergin and ask his opinion on the matter?



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mmcgrath
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You know who else is probably paid in full? The union leaders.


I agree. For writing contracts that allowed the pension payments to slide as they did.

The company has about $2.5 billion in revenue with about $1 billion in employee costs.... maybe less.




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Eighteen
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Hostess filed for bankruptcy in January, its second trip to bankruptcy court since 2004. It's now owned by a group of investment firms including hedge funds Silver Point Capital and Monarch Alternative Capital.


apparently Kickadouche thinks they need to lower their prices

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In September, one of its major unions, the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, voted narrowly to accept a new contract with reduced wages and benefits. The bakers' union rejected the deal, however, prompting Hostess management to secure permission from a bankruptcy court to force the new contract on workers.


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The new contract cuts salaries across the company by 8% in the first year of the five-year agreement. Salaries then bump up 3% in the next three years and 1% in the final year.

Hostess has also reduced its pension obligations and its contribution to the employees' health care plan. In exchange, the company offered concessions including a 25% equity stake for workers and the inclusion of two union representatives on an eight-member board of directors.




Yea. Hostess is being so greedy here

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"We simply do not have the financial resources to survive an ongoing national strike," Hostess CEO Greg Rayburn said in a statement.

The liquidation would result in Hostess' nearly 18,000 workers losing their jobs. The bakers' union represents around 5,000.



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...does anyone else read this as Hostess files Burger King?


No? Just me?






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Hostess files BK. Go to page 11 of the bk petition and what do you notice?
$8.5 million for flour?






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re: Hostess files BK. Go to page 11 of the bk petition and what do you notice?


Maybe this will light a fire and get Hubigs on the fast track!!!

Hubig Chocolate Pie -- MMMMMmmmm









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ProjectP2294
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re: Hostess files BK. Go to page 11 of the bk petition and what do you notice?


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Maybe this will light a fire and get Hubigs on the fast track!!!


It already did.






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FT
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It already did.






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RogerTheShrubber
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re: Hostess files BK. Go to page 11 of the bk petition and what do you notice?


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The union would not allow them to deliver cakes and bread on the same truck. They had to use two seperate trucks to deliver to the same store. Stupid fricks are now unemployed because of dumb shite like that.


Hostess signed the contracts. They are at fault.






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WildTchoupitoulas
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let them live on the streets

This attitude is what's wrong with America today.

"frick Americans, I hope they die in the gutter! I got MINE, Jack!"






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FT
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I do genuinely like unions, but I really can't stand the way they work today. A friend of mine was an executive at a major telecom company and he found a scrap of paper on the floor. He couldn't pick it up. If he had, he would've been doing the janitor's job. He had to call for the janitor and stand there waving people by like there was some major hazard on the floor.





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RogerTheShrubber
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I do genuinely like unions, but I really can't stand the way they work today


I'm pretty neutral. They serve a purpose in some industries like construction trades, but they have to have sweetheart deals through the state to make it work, and that is done through lobbyists and payoffs.

My first experience with a union was the teamsters at a trade show where their contract required three men to operate a fork lift. Their "customer service skills" were also shite.






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USMC Gators
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re: Hostess files BK. Go to page 11 of the bk petition and what do you notice?


Go unions!






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DapperDan
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This attitude is what's wrong with America today


I disagree. The attitude that decisions don't have consequences is much worse imo. The union decided t strike...now they have to deal with the consequences of that decision.






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The union decided t strike...now they have to deal with the consequences of that decision.


But that's just not fair.






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WildTchoupitoulas
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now they have to deal with the consequences of that decision.

That's fine as long as it doesn't involve Americans living in the streets.

To this day I don't undetsatnd why conservatives HATE American workers.






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DapperDan
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To this day I don't undetsatnd why conservatives HATE American workers.
delusional






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