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Bayou Sam
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re: When are more people going to start accepting Obama is a Marxist?


I don't see where that says anything about raising the corp tax rate.





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TreyAnastasio
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re: When are more people going to start accepting Obama is a Marxist?


People will accept he is a marxist when he becomes a marxist.

Those grapes sure are sour.






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Zach
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I repeat, has Obama done or proposed anything close to something as Marxist-like as a central authority trying to tell someone what they can charge for their product or service or telling someone what they can receive for their labor? Thats what Nixon and Jerry Ford tried to do. So they must be Marxist - cause Obama hasn't done or proposed anything this extreme.

Yep. It's called Obamacare. Try to pay attention.






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Methuselah
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Zach
When are more people going to start accepting Obama is a Marxist?
"There is no difference between Marxism and Socialism, except in the means of achieving the same end...the subjugation of the individual to the power of the state. Marxism uses force, Socialism uses the vote. Murder as opposed to Suicide."
....Ayn Rand

Ayn Rand is the new Karl Marx.






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Zach
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re: When are more people going to start accepting Obama is a Marxist?


I guess we have to get used to the 'new normal.'





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PaddlingTiger
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We didn't have the ACA.


Anyone who thinks that the government telling citizens that they have to purchase a product from a private company is Marxism has no clue what Marxism is. Is it also "Marxism" to require people to purchase car insurance in order to drive?







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BugAC
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What Obama policies are Marxist, exactly?


To each according to their needs, from each according to their ability.

Let's see.

Obama's tax plan.

End thread.






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MrTide33
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re: When are more people going to start accepting Obama is a Marxist?


Annnnddd.... my poor analogy still hasn't been destroyed...





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Methuselah
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To each according to their needs, from each according to their ability.

I thought that was from Acts of the Apostles?






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darkhorse
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re: When are more people going to start accepting Obama is a Marxist?


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I don't see where that says anything about raising the corp tax rate.


LOL!


I'm sure you dont.....






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20MuleTeam
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re: When are more people going to start accepting Obama is a Marxist?


When its actually true which will be never





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Bayou Sam
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re: When are more people going to start accepting Obama is a Marxist?


This isn't a very serious response.





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Champagne
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re: When are more people going to start accepting Obama is a Marxist?


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I'm not so sure that any of us can be so sure about that statement.


The Founders and Framers created a nation-state whose central government was confined to the specifically enumerated authority and functions granted by the US Constitution.

Obama and today's Dem Party reject those limitations on FedGov authority and function. That is to say, more specifically, they reject the philosophy of governance bequeathed to us by the Founders and Framers.

As such, Obama and today's Dem Party embrace a philosophy of governance that is alien to that of the Founders and Framers.







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Bayou Sam
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re: When are more people going to start accepting Obama is a Marxist?


Have you ever heard of "implied powers?"





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cahoots
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re: When are more people going to start accepting Obama is a Marxist?


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2) Redistribution of Wealth is a great tool for FedGov to use to establish Economic Fairness. We need to borrow more and print more money, so that we can have even more Fairness. There are plenty of rich people to take from, and they didn't build that anyway, so, it is Fair for them to pay their Fair Share.



We've been taxing the rich and giving to the poor for a while now (and the top tax bracket is low relative to the past). We can debate the pros and cons of that all night, but here's what I want to know - Why is it suddenly Marxist when Obama does it?






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cahoots
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And another thing...how is Obama simultaneously a Marxist and a socialist/communist?





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joshnorris14
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I'm a Libertarian tending anarcho.








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tigernchicago
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quote:When are more people going to start accepting Obama is a Marxist? When he stops governing as a Fascist probably.



Quit being an asshat.

Fascism and Communism are BOTH Marxist/Leninist Idealogies.

They are essentially kissing cousins.


And, you KNOW this to be true.






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boxcar willie
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re: When are more people going to start accepting Obama is a Marxist?


hello, calling out all tiger rant loons, please report to the loony toones thread





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Champagne
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re: When are more people going to start accepting Obama is a Marxist?


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Have you ever heard of "implied powers?"


Yes.

Are you suggesting that when we look for the clear meaning of a document that the document can "imply" that we must ignore the explicit four corners of limits specifically enumerated by that document?

In other words, are you suggesting that the US Constitution is written in some kind of secret code that only leftist and activist jurists can understand?

The Constutition clearly limits FedGovs authority and function, but, by some secret and subtle implications, we are REALLY supposed to read that document as holding that FedGov's authority and functions are essentially UN-limited.

Certainly, no serious person would suggest that, right?

And yet, this is exactly what you are suggesting.



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