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asurob1
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there are people who believe that an abortion wouldn't have saved her.



Bull shite response. You do everything you can do to save her life.


everything.






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catholictigerfan
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Bull shite response. You do everything you can do to save her life.


everything.



so you do an abortion when it isn't necessary?

your using this example of an instance where you think abortion is necessary and religious zelots killed this women, but I object and say it may not be as black and white as you make it out to be.

No doctor would do something that would put her life at risk. I actually think there may be something wrong with the law that makes it to were you can't terminate a pregnancy till its to late. If a law prevents a life from being saved it should be changed, so if this is the case it should change in ireland.







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BeeFense5
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You will come to realize that asurob has to be trolling by this point. No way someone supports murdering innocent children this strongly. All he has are insults to religious people and his "war on women" shtick that is so ridiculous that it would be hilarious if it wasnt so sad.





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asurob1
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your using this example of an instance where you think abortion is necessary and religious zelots killed this women, but I object and say it may not be as black and white as you make it out to be.


she's dead right...and based on the information we have seen she was refused an abortion.

Not sure how much more black and white it can get.

That being said, if you truly aren't bullshiteting here...and believe that the law should read SAVE THE DAMN MOM before you worry about the fetus.

Then there is hope for you yet.






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catholictigerfan
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You will come to realize that asurob has to be trolling by this point.


I wouldn't be surprised if all he does is troll.






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asurob1
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


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You will come to realize that asurob has to be trolling by this point. No way someone supports murdering innocent children this strongly. All he has are insults to religious people and his "war on women" shtick that is so ridiculous that it would be hilarious if it wasnt so sad.


Yes yes, we all know you think Im a troll.

Sadly you are wrong. I just happen to think that women deserve to decide what the hell happens to their bodies.

You dont give a shite about their opinions. As long as they are preparing baked goods in the kitchen for you.

See the difference?

Probably not.






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catholictigerfan
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she's dead right...and based on the information we have seen she was refused an abortion.



but we don't know if the abortion would have saved her life.
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That being said, if you truly aren't bullshiteeting here...and believe that the law should read SAVE THE DAMN MOM before you worry about the fetus.

Then there is hope for you yet.



there are for catholics called the double effect, I don't want to get into it because you wouldn't get it. But it calls for a certain way to go about how to handle a situation where an evil is involved. The church would have a way to handle this situation to where the mother is saved (if ending the pregnancy would save her life) and it be moral. But it must be an indirect abortion.






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catholictigerfan
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


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Sadly you are wrong. I just happen to think that women deserve to decide what the hell happens to their bodies.

You dont give a shite about their opinions. As long as they are preparing baked goods in the kitchen for you.

See the difference?

Probably not.


for me its simple, the fetus is a human being, you don't have a right to kill it just like you don't have a right to kill a 1 year old.

I've tried to show you this but all my efforts have failed.






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BeeFense5
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You equate not wanting to allow women to kill their children with not allowing women to have any rights. You are the one taking the irrational position in this debate. This whole "in the kitchen" nonsense is just ridiculous. I'd like you to link me to pro lifers that do not want women to have any rights.






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BeeFense5
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there are for catholics called the double effect, I don't want to get into it because you wouldn't get it. But it calls for a certain way to go about how to handle a situation where an evil is involved. The church would have a way to handle this situation to where the mother is saved (if ending the pregnancy would save her life) and it be moral. But it must be an indirect abortion.


Eptopic pregnancy.






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catholictigerfan
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Eptopic pregnancy.


the case he brings up isn't an eptopic pregnancy I think the miscarriage caused blood poisoning. Some say an abortion would have saved her others say when the miscarriage happened it was already to late. I'm no medical expert but if the abortion could have saved her then double effect would apply.






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BeeFense5
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I was just stating one of those types of tough situations that falls under your description.





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catholictigerfan
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yes that is the classic and may be only example.





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asurob1
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but we don't know if the abortion would have saved her life.


ah for fricks sake really? So instead you just let her die. Brilliant.

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there are for catholics called the double effect, I don't want to get into it because you wouldn't get it. But it calls for a certain way to go about how to handle a situation where an evil is involved. The church would have a way to handle this situation to where the mother is saved (if ending the pregnancy would save her life) and it be moral. But it must be an indirect abortion.


ah for frick sakes really?

Here's a thought, Drop the PC bull shite and care more about the people then the skygod and maybe more people will think the skygod actually cares about them.






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asurob1
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for me its simple, the fetus is a human being, you don't have a right to kill it just like you don't have a right to kill a 1 year old.

I've tried to show you this but all my efforts have failed.



yeah that's it.

A bunch of cells is not equal to a person. No matter how hard you try to say that it is.






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asurob1
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


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You equate not wanting to allow women to kill their children with not allowing women to have any rights. You are the one taking the irrational position in this debate. This whole "in the kitchen" nonsense is just ridiculous. I'd like you to link me to pro lifers that do not want women to have any rights.



No true. You give them the right to breed with you. As long as they don't enjoy said breeding in anyway.







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BeeFense5
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Drop the PC bullshite


PC bull shite would be making up words like fetus to describe a developing innocent human life in order to mask the seriousness of killing off that life out of convenience.

"Fetus" is nothing but PC bull shite used to help justify the mental gymnastics it takes to be pro abortion.






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BeeFense5
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You give them the right to breed with you. As long as they don't enjoy said breeding in anyway.


O RLY?






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asurob1
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


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PC bull shite would be making up words like fetus to describe a developing innocent human life in order to mask the seriousness of killing off that life out of convenience.

"Fetus" is nothing but PC bull shite used to help justify the mental gymnastics it takes to be pro abortion.



You are laughable.

Whatever we do. let's take the science out of it.

Its really all just magic to you isn't it?






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Fat Bastard
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asurob1



ahh yes THE GRAND FUHRER OF baby killing has graced us







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