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re: NBA.com article on Mickey Loomis and the Hornets
Posted on 11/12/12 at 12:08 pm to TigerinATL
Posted on 11/12/12 at 12:08 pm to TigerinATL
Since we are speculating here, or repeating it, I would offer up for consideration that the Gordon match / lack of S&T was a brass decision rather than a management decision. Was it more short-sighted or taking the long-view? Did it seem like a good idea with just a little data or a good idea given the body of work?
Larry Coon said today on the Hornets247 podcast, and this is a near-quote, that the Clippers didn't mind tossing Gordon in because they thought he'd command a high salary and that his injury history would make him not worth it. Key word: Clippers.
So, let's not just bring up one theory and attack it . . . put a few out there and see which ones stand up the best, because they all have holes when there is imperfect information and an `inefficient market' of that information. Who knows, maybe a new theory will form.
Again, part of that is me speculating, but part is a quote from Larry Coon who said he was told this about the Aminu trade.
Larry Coon said today on the Hornets247 podcast, and this is a near-quote, that the Clippers didn't mind tossing Gordon in because they thought he'd command a high salary and that his injury history would make him not worth it. Key word: Clippers.
So, let's not just bring up one theory and attack it . . . put a few out there and see which ones stand up the best, because they all have holes when there is imperfect information and an `inefficient market' of that information. Who knows, maybe a new theory will form.
Again, part of that is me speculating, but part is a quote from Larry Coon who said he was told this about the Aminu trade.
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Posted on 11/12/12 at 12:37 pm to 42
all I know is when the Suns offered the Max to Gordon, Demps had to match it.
We could no longer sign and trade him at that point. Our choice was sign him or let him go.
If we let him go we essentially gave up Paul for Austin Rivers and Aminu. Now, Aminu has certainly improved this past offseason and is playing great.
You could argue that a sign and trade should have been aggressively pursued prior to the max contract being offered, though.
We could no longer sign and trade him at that point. Our choice was sign him or let him go.
If we let him go we essentially gave up Paul for Austin Rivers and Aminu. Now, Aminu has certainly improved this past offseason and is playing great.
You could argue that a sign and trade should have been aggressively pursued prior to the max contract being offered, though.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 12:42 pm to 42
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I would offer up for consideration that the Gordon match / lack of S&T was a brass decision rather than a management decision.
I would agree that Loomis/Lauscha/Benson signed off and maybe even demanded keeping Gordon. I'm not sure how good the source is but in one of the recent podcasts I think Michael said he heard Demps didn't even return calls to Phoenix and Houston about trading Gordon and the plan all along was to match.
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Did it seem like a good idea with just a little data or a good idea given the body of work?
The team doctors have said there is no structural damage. If Demps wanted to unload Gordon for expirings I'm pretty sure someone would take a chance on Gordon's potential until he gets diagnosed with something career threatening. Right now Demps is playing the odds, and the odds are better that Gordon becomes a star for the Hornets than Jared Dudley and 2012 Cap Space become a star for the Hornets.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 12:43 pm to 42
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the Clippers didn't mind tossing Gordon in because they thought he'd command a high salary and that his injury history would make him not worth it. Key word: Clippers.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember the trade almost being called off (if not called off before being revived) because the Clippers did not want to include Gordon. From that statement, it makes it look like the opposite.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 10:34 pm to 42
Re: L'affaire Gordon Bleu
I am still unsure how they got to the point where Monty is calling Gordon out for not playing and we were/are seriously discussing Gordon asking for a trade 5 months after signing a max deal.
Wasn't Gordon insistent that the Hornets kept their distance throughout his RFA tour? Whether true or not, shouldn't Dell have been doing everything in his power to massage his ego if they were always going to match? It is just all very odd and doesn't look good for Gordon or the organization
I am still unsure how they got to the point where Monty is calling Gordon out for not playing and we were/are seriously discussing Gordon asking for a trade 5 months after signing a max deal.
Wasn't Gordon insistent that the Hornets kept their distance throughout his RFA tour? Whether true or not, shouldn't Dell have been doing everything in his power to massage his ego if they were always going to match? It is just all very odd and doesn't look good for Gordon or the organization
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