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Advice needed in timberland/ forestry management
Posted on 11/8/12 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 11/8/12 at 1:58 pm
I am in the process of negotiating a purchase of some rural timberland. It is a 40acre tract planted in pines 15 years ago. 1st thinning was done last year but only 2/3 was thinned (stopped due to rain). It is typical bottomland soil and decent timber I believe.
I am wondering how much value the remaining 1/3 has if thinned or clear cut after purchase. What could a landowner expect to recieve on a per acre basis?
Also, I have read that the timber will need the next cut at about 21 years. What kind of value does this cutting provide on average per acre?
When will the timber reach max value? 35 years?
I am just looking for some general guidelines and appreciate any help.
TIA
I am wondering how much value the remaining 1/3 has if thinned or clear cut after purchase. What could a landowner expect to recieve on a per acre basis?
Also, I have read that the timber will need the next cut at about 21 years. What kind of value does this cutting provide on average per acre?
When will the timber reach max value? 35 years?
I am just looking for some general guidelines and appreciate any help.
TIA
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Posted on 11/8/12 at 3:23 pm to nogoodjr
quote:did they clearcut 2/3 of it or thin 2/3 of it? because removing 2/3 of the timber is a little more than thinning. you typically thin 2 or 3 times before you clearcut.
I am in the process of negotiating a purchase of some rural timberland. It is a 40acre tract planted in pines 15 years ago. 1st thinning was done last year but only 2/3 was thinned (stopped due to rain).
the market will dictate when it has reached max value. it used to be at 25-35 years, but that was when saw logs were worth something. the last time i checked, chipping saw was worth just as much as logs.
quote:i could not tell you this without cruising the timber.
What could a landowner expect to recieve on a per acre basis?
Posted on 11/8/12 at 3:41 pm to nogoodjr
Too long, see last line first.
I'm not in the timber business, but five years ago I bought a 40 acre tract of 14yo pulpwood much like you're doing. Mine was un-thinned and the loggers got a little over 1000 tons off the planted 30 acres at $7/ton so I got a little over $7K the first year. I'm still waiting on the next thinning.
Your remaining third (13-14 acres?) would probably get just a few thousand on a first thinning; but not many cutters will get excited about thinning a site that small.
The proceeds from a mid-rotation cut depend on growth, the timber class (pulp and CNS vs small logs and poles) and market prices at the time. I but I was told to expect about 15-30K. Your bottomland should have better growth rates than my place in sandy hills.
Best bet is to get a forester visit the site and help you plan it out.
I'm not in the timber business, but five years ago I bought a 40 acre tract of 14yo pulpwood much like you're doing. Mine was un-thinned and the loggers got a little over 1000 tons off the planted 30 acres at $7/ton so I got a little over $7K the first year. I'm still waiting on the next thinning.
Your remaining third (13-14 acres?) would probably get just a few thousand on a first thinning; but not many cutters will get excited about thinning a site that small.
The proceeds from a mid-rotation cut depend on growth, the timber class (pulp and CNS vs small logs and poles) and market prices at the time. I but I was told to expect about 15-30K. Your bottomland should have better growth rates than my place in sandy hills.
Best bet is to get a forester visit the site and help you plan it out.
Posted on 11/8/12 at 5:24 pm to nogoodjr
The recommendation to talk to a forester is the best one. They know the markets and harvesting options in the local area. And if you do buy the land, hire a consultant forester to plan the management, to prepare and supervise logging contracts, do some prescribed burning, etc.
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