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TheOcean 
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| re: Interesting election statistics thread (Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:21 pm to SlowFlowPro)
Show me how lowering capital gains has boosted investment.
Here's another article:
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SlowFlowPro 
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| re: Interesting election statistics thread (Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:22 pm to petar)
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The florida bar, it forbids full time law students from having jobs.
why did you choose a graduate school that would affect you so negatively, economically?
why didn't you go for a cheaper law school or go to a night class school?
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All law schools are more expensive than i can afford
why not work until you can save up enough to afford it?
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False.
go to anywhere else and tell me how much better their student loan deals are
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To have both a high rate of interest and to collect that interest while during school is dumb.
if it's so dumb, then don't agree to the contract. nobody forced you to do so
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We get nothing in return for not being able to go default on it
you went to school and lived on it
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mikelowery1911 
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| re: Interesting election statistics thread (Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:22 pm to TigersRuleTheEarth)
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Another interesting fact: Obama carried 93% of the black vote.
What can be gleamed from this stat? That black voters overwhelmingly voted based on race. More so than white voters.
Damn right! Black voters never voted 90% democrat before Obama. All they see is race when they vote. They always vote for the black candidate. Look at all of the votes Cain and West received.
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: Interesting election statistics thread (Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:23 pm to petar)
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Oh so you think some magical things got put in the tax code for no reason?
no. there are reasons. stupid/partisan/social-engineering reasons but reasons nonetheless
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The tax code is not all that complicated
dude. the tax code is overbearing and full of attempts at stuff government shouldn't be doing (like incentivizing behavior)
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Duke 
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| re: Interesting election statistics thread (Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:24 pm to TheOcean)
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In fact, we need to spend more on our education system.
We've been throwing money at that problem for a while. The issues the young folks are having with student loans is a direct result of the access to loans. Colleges have a cash cow and keep raising tuition. Coupled with state cuts, it gets nasty fast.
What we really should do is look around the world and see who's education system is working, and try to shape our system like that. Germany comes to mind here.
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Bama54 
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Neverland
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| re: Interesting election statistics thread (Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:25 pm to TheBiggestSpur)
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No he didn't. You can't be a Christian and vote for a Muslim Marxist
Obama is a member of the United Church of Christ.
BTW do you have any idea what Mormons believe.
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: Interesting election statistics thread (Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:26 pm to TheOcean)
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Here's another article:
that contains an absolute lie
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George W. Bush’s capital gains cuts, however, did not lead to such a strong economy.
under GWB we had the highest annual totals of tax receipts ever. that's ever with an E
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TheOcean
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| re: Interesting election statistics thread (Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:26 pm to Duke)
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What we really should do is look around the world and see who's education system is working, and try to shape our system like that. Germany comes to mind here.
I 100% agree. The level of political discourse in this country is enough proof that we need to focus more on improving education 
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Bama54
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Neverland
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| re: Interesting election statistics thread (Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:26 pm to TigersRuleTheEarth)
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What can be gleamed from this stat? That black voters overwhelmingly voted based on race. More so than white voters.
No African Americans are historically Democratic, thats all.
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Puffoluffagus
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New Orleans
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| re: Interesting election statistics thread (Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:27 pm to bayou2003)
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What parishes, counties is this happening in because I can look up some stats for blacks on assistance then look at blacks in the workforce in those areas, total black population, etc.
Any numbers on Bastrop, LA / Morehouse parish?
Just curious as to where my hometown lies in the midst of all that. I like numbers.
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: Interesting election statistics thread (Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:28 pm to TheOcean)
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We should do all that we can to promote higher education
not through public means
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It is the only significant fact that will keep us competitive. You know this
the cream rises to the top
the free market keeps us competitive
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I can promise you our educational spending is not the problem. In fact, we need to spend more on our education system.
did you follow the "occupy" movement?
how much economic output are we getting for all of those kids bitching about their federally-subsidized degrees?
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TheOcean
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| re: Interesting election statistics thread (Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:29 pm to SlowFlowPro)
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Both plans assume that tax cuts help boost economic growth but a new report released by the Congressional Research Service questions the impact of tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans. The nonpartisan CRS says cuts in the top marginal tax rate and top capital gains tax rate "do not appear correlated with economic growth." The report says cutting top tax rates don't appear to boost saving, investment or productivity, or the size of the economic pie, but do seem to increase disparities in income. The idea that you cut taxes to stimulate the economy has been the center of the Republican plank for 30 years starting with Reagan, says The Daily Ticker's Henry Blodget. "This Congressional Research Service report, which is nonpartisan, says there's no evidence that that is true." Current top marginal tax rates are 35% on income and 15% on capital gains and dividends. All are set to expire by year-end if Congress doesn't act to stop implementation of the Budget Control Act. That law mandates that the top marginal rates will jump to 39.6% on income and dividends (as they were when Bill Clinton was president) and 20% on capital gains after the new year.
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| re: Interesting election statistics thread (Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:29 pm to SlowFlowPro)
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SlowFlowPro
Why are you so against professionals such as lawyers or doctors?
People complain about Obamacare lowering the doctors pay so we will have less doctors. Wouldn't raising the cost of education do the same thing? Put both in effect at the same time, wouldn't this be troublesome?
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why not work until you can save up enough to afford it?
I would have loved to save around 80k (average amount of post law school debt) or 140k (average amount of med school debt).
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you went to school and lived on it
Thats the purpose of a loan. I still am signing a guarantee to pay it unlike any other loan which i could possibly default on.
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petar
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| re: Interesting election statistics thread (Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:31 pm to SlowFlowPro)
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under GWB we had the highest annual totals of tax receipts ever. that's ever with an E
We also had the highest GDP ever. that's ever with an E.
How did revenue/gdp look?
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: Interesting election statistics thread (Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:33 pm to petar)
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Why are you so against professionals such as lawyers or doctors?
i am a lawyer. i'm very thankful i was allowed to take out student loans to go to school, unlike europe where i never would have had the opportunity.
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People complain about Obamacare lowering the doctors pay so we will have less doctors. Wouldn't raising the cost of education do the same thing?
increased federally-backed student loans increase the cost of education. you can't bitch about loans and then complain about the cost of education. they're linked.
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I still am signing a guarantee to pay it unlike any other loan which i could possibly default on.
you exercised your right to contract
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TheOcean
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| re: Interesting election statistics thread (Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:33 pm to SlowFlowPro)
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not through public means
You do realize what would happen to higher education without government subsidies, right?
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the cream rises to the top
Sure, when millions aren't afforded the same options to better themselves. But now we're getting into demographics which isn't a road I want go down.
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how much economic output are we getting for all of those kids bitching about their federally-subsidized degrees?
Are they to blame for the poor economy?
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Duke
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| re: Interesting election statistics thread (Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:34 pm to petar)
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How did revenue/gdp look?
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: Interesting election statistics thread (Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:36 pm to TheOcean)
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The report says cutting top tax rates don't appear to boost saving, investment or productivity, or the size of the economic pie, but do seem to increase disparities in income.
why did tax receipts explode under GWB, while staying within the ranges of Hauser's law?
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Golfer
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Coral Bay, St. John, USVI
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| re: Interesting election statistics thread (Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:36 pm to bayou2003)
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He acts like 49k is bad. Do any of these frickers want to post their tax returns so we can see how much they made
49k median hh income is below the southeast average.
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: Interesting election statistics thread (Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:36 pm to petar)
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We also had the highest GDP ever. that's ever with an E.
exactly. lower taxes. bigger GDP. everyone is better off
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