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sassyLSU 
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Lake Charles, La.
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143 posts
| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 10:04 pm to Rickety Cricket)
Rickety, that is no way to use the name of Jesus Christ.
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sassyLSU
LSU Fan
Lake Charles, La.
Member since May 2011
143 posts
| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 10:07 pm to FightinTiger)
Doing away with a baby is murder; no other word for it....killing an innocent baby.
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VOR 
New Orleans Saints Fan
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
33143 posts
| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 10:09 pm to sassyLSU)
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Doing away with a baby is murder; no other word for it....killing an innocent baby.
Yep, that's horrible. However, embryo =/= "baby"
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bmy
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Member since Oct 2007
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| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 10:30 pm to BeeFense5)
How about you quit shoving your definition of "alive" down other peoples throats? It's not alive until it has a fricking brain that works.
This post was edited on 11/7 at 10:31 pm
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bmy
LSU Fan
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20229 posts
| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 10:32 pm to catholictigerfan)
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i don't get the parasite thing the women actually is benefited by a pregnancy in the long run it is natural for her to have a child. Both are positively affected by the relationship therefore not a parasite.
You are good at making random shite up, that's for sure.
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McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
9644 posts
| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/8/12 at 9:22 am to bmy)
When does the brain start working, dr?
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Rickety Cricket 
Navy Fan
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| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/8/12 at 9:28 am to sassyLSU)
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Rickety, that is no way to use the name of Jesus Christ.
My apologies, should I have used his real middle name, Tapdancing?
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los angeles tiger
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| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/8/12 at 9:29 am to Rickety Cricket)
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If Republican candidates would stop using abortion to pander to the social conservatives, then liberals wouldn't have any ammunition to go at them with.
They didn't. Obama and the dems created a false narrative while they are actually mandating that Church institutions must provide abortifacients and birth control to their female employees. The Church no longer has a choice in the Pro-Choice world. That's because they've never been about choice but have always been dictatorial.
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Rickety Cricket
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| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/8/12 at 9:34 am to los angeles tiger)
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They didn't.
Abortion wasn't an issue during the primaries? Republican candidates across the country weren't shoving their feet in their mouthes regarding abortion?
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Keltic Tiger
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
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| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/8/12 at 10:23 am to Rickety Cricket)
Again, I'll just say that the abortion issue is based on one's religious beliefs, bottom line. And I don't judge anyone else's right to their beliefs, as that gives them the right to judge mine. You feeling you are right does not mean I am wrong. You can disparge it all you want, as being relevant or horribly not relevant, but in this past election, 2 politicians lost their seats ( and their position in Congress to expouse your beliefs) based on their religious beliefs re abortion rights as expressed in a disgusting manner. You can yell & stomp your feet all you want that it is a black & white (murder is murder is murder ) issue. I disagree & apparently there are many out there who disagree as well. If you want to use science to support your views, then I'll gladly use science to support my view on creationalism vs evolution.
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los angeles tiger
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| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/8/12 at 10:25 am to BeeFense5)
Is this also about the incident in Libya where Obama's administration didn't want to protect American lives? Suits both.
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elprez00
New Orleans Saints Fan
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
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| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/8/12 at 10:30 am to FightinTiger)
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I really believe that people don't really think abortion is murder.
My disagreement and hatred with abortion has nothing to do with Murder. Its the ultimate cop out. How selfish are you that you would rather end a life than deal with the consequences of your actions?
There are plenty people out there that want kids and cant have them. Your "mistake" could be the ultimate blessing to someone else. I pretty much guarantee that a home could be found for every kid that was born to a mother that didn't want it.
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taylork37 
Ohio State Fan
The social pipeline
Member since Mar 2010
6757 posts
| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/8/12 at 10:30 am to BeeFense5)
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Serious mental gymnastics for this justification
IMO it takes an equal amount of mental gymnastics to consider an egg and a sperm a life the minute they fertilize.
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Summer of George
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
1703 posts
| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/8/12 at 10:35 am to BeeFense5)
I'm for abortion b/c it stymies liberal reproduction.
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BrookhavenBengal
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Brookhaven, MS
Member since Oct 2007
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| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/8/12 at 10:39 am to elprez00)
The subject of abortion is highly emotional, but it is overcomplicated by such emotion. It really is no more complicated than this: one's position comes down to the simple declaration of when life begins and is considered to be a "person."
For instance, I don't know of anyone who would say that if a child conceived in rape was allowed to be born, then the mother could never get over the emotional scars of the rape, that it would be okay for her to terminate the life of that child six months after it was born. I don't know of anyone who would say it was ok within the first six weeks after it was born. Or the first six days, or even six minutes AFTER it was born. So the vast majority of people in America are in agreement that a human life is valuable and worthy of protection even if conceived in rape - the only matter "up for grabs" is at what point such value and right of protection is imputed to the child: six seconds after birth, six seconds before, six days before, six weeks, months...you get the idea.
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taylork37
Ohio State Fan
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| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/8/12 at 10:52 am to BrookhavenBengal)
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six seconds after birth, six seconds before, six days before, six weeks, months...you get the idea.
I agree with you, but I think it is more centered around how long after the sperm fertilizes the egg.
This post was edited on 11/8 at 10:53 am
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manwich 
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| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/8/12 at 10:58 am to taylork37)
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IMO it takes an equal amount of mental gymnastics to consider an egg and a sperm a life the minute they fertilize.
scientifically speaking:
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life - an organismic state characterized by capacity for metabolism, growth, reaction to stimuli, and reproduction
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BeeFense5 
Notre Dame Fan
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2010
15829 posts
| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/8/12 at 10:59 am to manwich)
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quote: life - an organismic state characterized by capacity for metabolism, growth, reaction to stimuli, and reproduction
Knockout punch 
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BrookhavenBengal
LSU Fan
Brookhaven, MS
Member since Oct 2007
2243 posts
| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/8/12 at 11:06 am to taylork37)
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six seconds after birth, six seconds before, six days before, six weeks, months...you get the idea.
I agree with you, but I think it is more centered around how long after the sperm fertilizes the egg.
Your point doesn't change my argument, it only extends the timeline of my argument. My point stands: the whole debate hinges upon the determination of when "life" begins and is therefore worthy of protection. Further, I reject the notion of "viability" as the test. A three year old (and older) is not "viable" if left on their own. Neither are the elderly, but most people consider both groups worthy of dignity and protection.
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FightinTiger 
Georgia Tech Fan
wat
Member since Oct 2003
7669 posts
| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/8/12 at 11:08 am to BeeFense5)
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life - an organismic state characterized by capacity for metabolism, growth, reaction to stimuli, and reproduction
Fetuses can reproduce? :woah:
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