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LSU80 USF08 
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| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:23 am to BeeFense5)
I disagree with OP's wording. We are talking about a fetus that is dependent on the mother. While the tissue is 'alive', it is not yet a person. The mother's rights absolutely trump the potential's rights.
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BeeFense5 
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| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:24 am to getback)
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Yeah, there is.. the title of your desperate thread is about "Protecting the Life of the Innocent".. Do the young altar boys not fit that category?
If you would like to discuss priest abuse scandal then start another thread. This is about abortion.
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SilverSpurs13
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| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:26 am to BeeFense5)
Who are you to decide what a woman does with her body?
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Brian Fantana
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| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:27 am to Rickety Cricket)
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Rickety Cricket
It's a Christian thing you wouldn't understand
So quit attacking our religion
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FightinTiger 
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| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:27 am to SilverSpurs13)
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Who are you to decide what a woman does with her body?
Who is a woman to decide to kill her child? His view is that it's murder. Your argument will mean nothing to him.
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BeeFense5
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| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:27 am to FightinTiger)
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Legality doesn't make it right. You prove that by fighting it. Nor does the illegality of taking violent action, if necessary, remove responsibility to do so. God will not look down on Germans that knew about the Holocaust and say that they were following the rules and it was ok to let it continue. You know that murders are taking place. You aren't stopping them. Peaceful protest is great when the action you're protesting is peaceful. When the action you're protesting is murder, you're either a coward or you don't really care.
I choose not to fight violence with violence. The argument about "why aren't you doing anything about it" is poor.
The are many ways to tackle issues. People that protest violence of war are never told "why don't you get violent and fight back if you are so against it". They protest.
I choose several different ways to fight the evil of abortion and the death culture. I have participated in interventions, crisis counseling, and protests. I have met several lives that I have been able to help save. Greatest feeling in the world.
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manwich 
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| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:28 am to BeeFense5)
the fewer unwanted babies in the world, the better imo
no, i'm not one of those people that believe that a glob of cells should take precedence over the will of the host
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Rickety Cricket 
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| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:28 am to Brian Fantana)
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So quit attacking our religion
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getback
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| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:28 am to BeeFense5)
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If you would like to discuss priest abuse scandal then start another thread. This is about abortion.
Oh, I thought you were genuinely concerned about protecting the life of the innocent.. Turns out you were only considering some of them.. This shite is worn out on here, dude. Enjoy your 10 pages 
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BeeFense5
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| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:30 am to getback)
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Oh, I thought you were genuinely concerned about protecting the life of the innocent.. Turns out you were only considering some of them..
Yes because I am a huge supporter of the corruption and sexual abuse by priests. 
This is a different discussion. You are trying to get cute and bring in something as a deflection.
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FightinTiger
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| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:30 am to BeeFense5)
It's a silly analogy, but if you knew there was an extermination center where children that had been born could be dropped off to be killed, would you protest that, too, or do more?
I'm glad you've been able to prevent abortions. That's wonderful. But...
"You can get more with a kind word and a gun than you can with just a kind word." - Al Capone
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Rex
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| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:32 am to genro)
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Are you seriously claiming that fetuses don't have brains?
They have brains but not minds.
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BeeFense5
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| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:32 am to FightinTiger)
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"You can get more with a kind word and a gun than you can with just a kind word." - Al Capone
I just choose not to be violent.
I'm not one to bomb clinics or threaten doctors. Passing on information and counseling others is the best way to fundamentally attack this. Not through force.
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FightinTiger
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| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:33 am to Rex)
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They have brains but not minds.
Can you prove that, Rex? If you can't, can you, in good conscience, allow them to be aborted?
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FightinTiger
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| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:34 am to BeeFense5)
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Passing on information and counseling others is the best way to fundamentally attack this.
I agree. You really win when the other fellow sees it your way. But in the interim, aren't you still allowing murders to happen unimpeaded?
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manwich
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| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:34 am to BeeFense5)
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I have met several lives that I have been able to help save. Greatest feeling in the world.
so you talked a couple women out of abortion? were they just having one out of convenience or were they poverty sticken/rape victims?
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Rex
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| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:35 am to FightinTiger)
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His view is that it's murder.
I don't think it really is.
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BeeFense5
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| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:35 am to manwich)
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so you talked a couple women out of abortion? were they just having one out of convenience or were they poverty sticken/rape victims?
I have been able to talk 14 women out of abortion. Failed many more times than that which haunts me.
But most of the women were in poverty situations. One was a rape victim.
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manwich
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| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:36 am to BeeFense5)
So you are farming government burdens or have any these little miracles gone on to contribute to society?
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FightinTiger
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| re: How Is Protecting The Life Of The Innocent A "Radical" Belief? (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:37 am to BeeFense5)
There are two cases that changed my mind about abortion. One was a rape victim, the other's baby would have been born in extreme pain and died within 24-48 hours. She aborted to save them both the pain. They then had a funeral.
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