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re: Team by Team comparison of attendance for the first two games(Hornets dead last)

Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by MikeD
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Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:15 pm to
I would be curious about the actual attendance. There is now way either game has had over 10,000 in the stands.
Posted by JayJay2
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Posted on 11/4/12 at 3:59 pm to
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I would be curious about the actual attendance. There is now way either game has had over 10,000 in the stands.



Your curiosity has not rendered you the chance to research these things, or use your brain I see. It's all in the first post


quote:

TONIGHT
Cleveland - 20,562
Golden State - 19,596 Minnesota (w/ Sacramento in town LOL) - 19,356
Charlotte (w/Indiana in town LOL) - 19,124
New York - 19,033
Los Angeles - 18,997
Orlando - 18,846
Boston - 18,624
Atlanta (LOL) - 18,238
Oklahoma City - 18,203
Phoenix - 15,107
NEW ORLEANS - 14,147

OPENING NIGHT
Chicago - 21,313
Cleveland - 20,562
Portland - 20,401
Miami - 20,296
Toronto - 19,800
Philadelphia - 19,101
Los Angeles (Clippers) - 19,060
Los Angeles (Lakers) - 18,997
Utah - 17,634
Detroit - 16,646
Phoenix - 15,678
NEW ORLEANS - 15,358
This post was edited on 11/4/12 at 4:02 pm
Posted by BrowDown
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/4/12 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

Your curiosity has not rendered you the chance to research these things, or use your brain I see. It's all in the first post



Well that's ironic since you're too busy being a smartass to read correctly. He said IN THE STANDS, not tickets sold.

As for that, 10k in the seats looks really sparse, I would believe it was around 13k in the seats for the games so far.
This post was edited on 11/4/12 at 4:17 pm
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
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Posted on 11/4/12 at 4:28 pm to
Buncha nega-hornets bullshite in this thread.

I don't care if you personally didn't care about LSU/Bama.. most people around Louisiana did, and if you offered me hornets tickets compared to watch LSU on tv I wouldn't even pretend to go.

Halloween isn't a matter of choice, a lot of people have kids, you can't ditch your kids or make them give up halloween to go watch a basketball game
Posted by JayJay2
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Posted on 11/4/12 at 4:48 pm to
quote:


Well that's ironic since you're too busy being a smartass to read correctly. He said IN THE STANDS, not tickets sold.

As for that, 10k in the seats looks really sparse, I would believe it was around 13k in the seats for the games so far.


If you're going to come at me, please come at me with the correct facts my man. Thank you. The stats of attendance, is ATTENDANCE jack arse, and not tickets sold. Didn't want to insult you but, you needed it.
Posted by JayJay2
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Posted on 11/4/12 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

Buncha nega-hornets bullshite in this thread.



They're popping up all over.
Posted by BrowDown
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/4/12 at 5:01 pm to
I've seen figures used of both, actually. If those are butts in the seats than nevermind.
This post was edited on 11/4/12 at 5:03 pm
Posted by JayJay2
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Posted on 11/4/12 at 5:16 pm to
Yeah.
This post was edited on 11/4/12 at 5:17 pm
Posted by 42
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 11/4/12 at 5:32 pm to
Lots of reason and knowledge in the thread. It started without that.

That's progress.

Hat's off to TD readers from a man that is as grumpy as they come (except for VOR and his precious lawn).
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7208 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 6:12 pm to
Pretty sure that those figures are tickets sold... unless the Bulls have every single seat filled every single game last year. LINK

More info here abour 'sell-out' streaks being based on tickets distributed and not actual attendance. LINK

And FWIW I was at the game Friday night and Alabama/LSU on Saturday.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 11/4/12 at 6:20 pm to
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except for VOR and his precious lawn


Tough call . . . attendance threads or kids on the lawn . . . which is more annoying?



















Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7208 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 6:23 pm to
Read the article on this Nets - Bucks game from 2010 in which the recap states there were less than 1000 fans in attendance. Then click on the box score when the attendance is listed at 12,000+. LINK

Keep burying your head in the sand about the Hornets attendance.
This post was edited on 11/4/12 at 6:25 pm
Posted by JayJay2
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Posted on 11/4/12 at 6:24 pm to
You keep bringing us down there and we'll keep the burying. Thanks.
Posted by JayJay2
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Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 11/4/12 at 6:24 pm to
quote:

Team by Team comparison of attendance for the first two games(Hornets dead last) quote: except for VOR and his precious lawn Tough call . . . attendance threads or kids on the lawn . . . which is more annoying?




Kids in attendance?...
Posted by teeMike
In my mind, I'm already there.
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 11/4/12 at 6:38 pm to
Could be the economy? How much are tickets by the way?
Posted by 42
Member since Apr 2012
3703 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 8:06 pm to
Attendance in the box score is the sim of tickets sold and tickets comped that are used.

The butts in seat number is always less.

So what?

Again, people obsessed with this: why you care? Unless.you are curious or informed, you are just trying to start trouble and will be dealt with accordingly.

as far as heads in the sand go, I've written about attendance will be below expectation and the organization is not in a great financial position at the moment. So there is no burying here.

So, retort.
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7208 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 8:23 pm to
Man I would love for the Arena to be packed. It kills me to see all the lower bowl seats empty game after game. I'm not obsessed but people talking about 14000+ being in attendance are living in a dream.

I hope it gets better as the wins keep piling up.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63440 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 10:16 pm to
quote:

Man I would love for the Arena to be packed. It kills me to see all the lower bowl seats empty game after game. I'm not obsessed but people talking about 14000+ being in attendance are living in a dream.

I hope it gets better as the wins keep piling up.



Answer a question for me . . . honestly. How long have you been attending Hornets games and how many have you attended? There's a purpose to the question.
Posted by 42
Member since Apr 2012
3703 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 11:54 pm to
This lower bowl thing is interesting.

The main prop for this team that is missing is not `attendance' but corporate support. Sterm says there's need to be media support (local tv deal), government support (tax breaks, etc.), and corporate support.

We have 2 of the 3 . . . the first two. The TV deal is fine, midpack, all things considered. Government support here is killer.

The latter has been and issue back to the Jazz days. Seriously.

Those blub seats aren't for consumers. They are for businesses, etc. The Hornets have been the worst in the NBA at this component of things. All those I'm In events . . . they had some just for professionals and businesses. It got better, but not terribly so.

That right there, along with any succession issues, will present the challenges for this team for the next 5 years. Sign it.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63440 posts
Posted on 11/5/12 at 6:59 am to
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This lower bowl thing is interesting.


Agree. But the interesting thing is that it seems that many of those seats are sold, but they simply aren't used. Now when the team is hot and/or it gets later in the season, that changes. As an aside, I still maintain the season is too long for most people and the "general population" doesn't pay as much attention until after the first of the year. That impacts smaller markets because of raw numbers.

quote:

along with any succession issues


In other words, I assume you mean new ownership's (after the passing of Benson) intentions.
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