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TigerLicks
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re: Alabama Utility Crews Turned Away in NJ for Sandy Help


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This is just sad, the truth is I would put money that Southern crews have more exp. dealing with down power lines and restoring than anybody. If I was non union I would just get up leave....


Sad but truth






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sparkinator
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re: Alabama Utility Crews Turned Away in NJ for Sandy Help


Do you think the utility company's pushed for non-union workers to not be allowed to help during a disaster. If indeed the company signed an agreement with the unions to not allow non-union workers, it was due to the unions twisting the utility companys arms.

Like I stated this is a strawman argument. The union is the problem and the union instigated it. They are the only ones to benefit to a rule such as this.






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bamalee
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What? there's probably a contract that says union-only.
Plus, if you haven't noticed, there are a shite ton of details missing from this little news story.

Both excuse's are just dumb, it is a disaster area, people are hurting and the union is worried about a contract, screw them, that shite would never happen in the south, we would thank them do everthing we could to help them, not turn them away... Insane, Northerners, you reap what you sow.






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Jimbeaux28
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re: Alabama Utility Crews Turned Away in NJ for Sandy Help


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do any of you realize that these union workers have employers who apparently bargained away the right to allow non-union workers to pitch in?


Stand in the home of someone in New Jersey without power and argue this.

Unfricking real.






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baybeefeetz
the now
Member since Sep 2009
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re: Alabama Utility Crews Turned Away in NJ for Sandy Help


you don't know what the company got in return for a contract provision that says, 'in the event of an emergency where more help is needed, employer agrees to hire only union workers, no matter where from."

Employer might have gotten a concession it really wanted in the context of managing its regular workforce.

My main point is that this might not have been just some thugs telling these crews to frick off.

where there's a union, there's a contract. What does the contract say?







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baybeefeetz
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Stand in the home of someone in New Jersey without power and argue this.


this assumes that that crew was not replaced with a union crew that was en route and various other things that are not discussed in this shitty fricking little article.







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Jake88
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re: Alabama Utility Crews Turned Away in NJ for Sandy Help


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where there's a union, there's a contract


And there is the problem.






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TigerLicks
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re: Alabama Utility Crews Turned Away in NJ for Sandy Help


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you don't know what the company got in return for a contract provision that says, 'in the event of an emergency where more help is needed, employer agrees to hire only union workers, no matter where from." Employer might have gotten a concession it really wanted in the context of managing its regular workforce. My main point is that this might not have been just some thugs telling these crews to frick off. where there's a union, there's a contract. What does the contract say?


They ask those frickING questions after disasters? Let's piss off people trying to survive a bit more.






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baybeefeetz
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re: Alabama Utility Crews Turned Away in NJ for Sandy Help


yeah, contracts suck.







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baybeefeetz
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re: Alabama Utility Crews Turned Away in NJ for Sandy Help


a deal's a deal, and again, we are just taking Derrick's word for it here, whoever the frick that is.







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sparkinator
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re: Alabama Utility Crews Turned Away in NJ for Sandy Help


None of us know what the contract says, but trying to blame the utilities for the closed shop laws are absurd.






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ZZTIGERS
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re: Alabama Utility Crews Turned Away in NJ for Sandy Help


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where there's a union, there's a contract. What does the contract say?

I think that's the issue that everyone has with this. If these private union idiots want to turn away help to secure their union contracts, great. I'm not too sure their customers will be fond of this particular stipulation though....






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dr smartass phd
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re: Alabama Utility Crews Turned Away in NJ for Sandy Help


Something to add to the misery,

LINK






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baybeefeetz
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re: Alabama Utility Crews Turned Away in NJ for Sandy Help


what? I'm not blaming the company. There's probably just more to this story than meets the eye.







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bamalee
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re: Alabama Utility Crews Turned Away in NJ for Sandy Help


this assumes that that crew was not replaced with a union crew that was en route and various other things that are not discussed in this shitty fricking little article.

Unions are worthless everywhere, worked with them overseas, the biggest bunch of crybabies ever, that bama crew would have shown those union crews up, that is the problem, period...






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udtiger
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re: Alabama Utility Crews Turned Away in NJ for Sandy Help


frick THEM! Let them freeze in the dark.





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TigerLicks
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re: Alabama Utility Crews Turned Away in NJ for Sandy Help


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yeah, contracts suck.


The party of compassion






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baybeefeetz
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re: Alabama Utility Crews Turned Away in NJ for Sandy Help


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If these private union idiots want to turn away help to secure their union contracts, great. I'm not too sure their customers will be fond of this particular stipulation though....


NOt disagreeing with you. I'm far from a union apologist, despite what it might seem here. I am actually a management-side lawyer.

I just don't go for getting myself all hacked off simply on the basis of tihs little article. It's shite journalism.







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sparkinator
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re: Alabama Utility Crews Turned Away in NJ for Sandy Help


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do any of you realize that these union workers have employers who apparently bargained away the right to allow non-union workers to pitch in?



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what? I'm not blaming the company.













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baybeefeetz
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The party of compassion


I don't have a party, and I'm voting for Romney. typical bull shite.






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