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this means you have no views or beliefs on your own. you hear someones side of an argument, then wiki it to make yourself look good when you have no fricking clue as to what you are talking about and try to justify yourself as being right.


No it doesn't. If you can prove an opinion through supporting evidence, experiments, or through mathematical formula...then I will accept it as a fact.

If all the science in the world were destroyed, we could easily prove it all again through mathematics and experiments. The same can't be said for some random political opinion.






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GumboBurrito
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So if you ever have an engineering question about a bridge or your house, let one of us know and we will wikipedia it for you, and if it isnt what you think is right YOU will still be in the wrong because we will have documentation aka retardapedia


No. That's not how it works at all. If you have an engineering question, it can be answered through math. Although, I'm sure you could find the correct mathematical formulas on Wikipedia to solve engineering problems. Any other words you want to put in my mouth?



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No. That's not how it works at all. If you have an engineering question, it can be answered through math. Although, I'm sure you could find the correct mathematical formulas on Wikipedia to solve engineering problems.


Same of POLI SCI

2x4+2=Senator



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Breesus
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My opinion doesn't matter

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which is why I haven't provided a single opinion FOR or AGAINST the government overstepping it's bounds

You've chosen to just give opinions about how dumb i am, how shitty my major is, how worthless my degree is, and how pathetic the poli sci department of LSU is. You can go frick yourself. There are at least 3 poster who have provided facts and evidence to you. You dismiss them because you're either to fricking stupid to understand them or you are so pathetic and worhtless and unhappy with your own life that you get enjoyment out of trying to make others feel as dumb and miserable as you. Either way i feel sorry for you. And yeah im mad, but not at you, just at how miserably the school system, society, and your parents have failed in raising you.

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I am only concerned with you backing up your statement, which I can't accept as accurate unless you provide some evidence to support it.

Slavery. Pretty big issue the government got wrong.



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That's not how it works at all. If you have an engineering question, it can be answered through math

Yup. Engineering is just plugging numbers into already made formulas. Maybe that's why you cant understand the arguments being made. There is no right and wrong and there is no black and white in Poli Sci. We have provided evidence as to why we think we are right. But if you re waiting for us to prove to you without a possibility of doubt that an answer is correct concerning Political Science, politics, and the governemnt than you clearly dont understand how the social sciences work and you have a tenuous grasp on how our government and legal systems work.



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Breesus, look I know I got under your skin because you can't provide any proof. Just claiming "slavery" isn't proof. Link me to an argument that directly proves your point or write it out word for word (citing your sources) so I can see exactly how Slavery proves the federal government is overstepping its bounds. Otherwise, it's just a baseless claim by some college kid on the internet. I never said politics was about being right, or wrong. I did say that you should provide some direct and credible evidence to support your claims.

I like how you also quoted my entire post out of context. Real clever. I'm still waiting on your evidence...



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Breesus
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, look I know I got under your skin because you can't provide any proof.
The National The Minimum Drinking Age Act of 1984 is proof of my argument that the Government has overstepped its bounds. It is a violation of the 10th amendment and an abuse of power. You for some reason refuse to acknowledge or accept that.

Here you go:
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The Lautenberg opponents considered his amendment to be an infringement on state’s rights; their arguments, made on June 26, taken from Thomas’ Senate Vote Analysis, are as follows: The pending Lautenberg amendment, however, which would coerce States into establishing a 21-year-old drinking age, should be rejected because it would result in Federal encroachment into areas that have been reserved to the States under the Constitution. It is clear that all powers not specifically delegated to the Federal Government by the Constitution are reserved to the States and to the people. Nowhere in the Constitution has the power to regulate the sale and consumption of alcoholic beverages been delegated to the Federal Government. Those who want to expand the power of the Federal Government beyond that granted to it by the Constitution have found various mechanisms for achieving their objective. Almost every Federal tax dollar returned to the States has strings attached; the Lautenberg amendment would tighten the knot. This practice, as embodied by this amendment, is nothing short of blackmail by the Federal Government. It is inconsistent with the Constitution, contrary to sound principles of federalism, and not in the best interest of our country. Therefore, the Lautenberg amendment should be rejected.



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Aux Arc
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I cannot believe I'm doing this.

GB, You are being a complete douche and acting like a child with your insistence. Law schools devote entire courses to this subject - that means hundreds of pages of cases going back to Marbury v. Madison. It is not something that can be "proven". The proper scope of Federal power is a matter of opinion that has been debated since before the Constitution was ever ratified.

If you really have an interest in the subject, start with The Federalist Papers and commentary on them. You should be able to find numerous sources with a google search. Then attempt to understand the key cases on Federalism to see the slow progression of gradually expanding the proper authority of the Federal government through legal decisions. Then you will see a slight reigning in of the commerce clause more recently.

You need historical context to really understand the cases. You can then form your own <gasp> opinion about which camp is correct about the limits the Constitution places on the federal government, and whether Congress and the Supreme Court have over reached.

Volumes have been dedicated to the subject.

After that you should spend some time diving into the distinction between substantive and procedural due process. That's a hoot.






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GumboBurrito
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The National The Minimum Drinking Age Act of 1984 is proof of my argument that the Government has overstepped its bounds. It is a violation of the 10th amendment and an abuse of power. You for some reason refuse to acknowledge or accept that.


But why? Why did the Supreme Court uphold the decision if it's wrong? You never go into detail.

These people disagree with you:

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In 1982, President Ronald Reagan set up a commission to study the drunk driving problem in the United States, and one of their 39 recommendations was a national, uniform drinking age of 21. This recommendation was influenced by Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD), which had been founded by Candy Lightner in 1980. Senator Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) wrote the National Minimum Drinking Age Act of 1984.


I see you edited your post to include evidence. Thank you for that. Finally some proof. That's all I was looking for. See how easy that was?



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Why did the Supreme Court uphold the decision if it's wrong?

Why did they uphold slavery and the ability for a man to rape his wife? The Supreme Court is wrong sometimes you assclown. They have reversed themselves before.

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These people disagree with you:

And i disagree with them. As do most constitutional scholars. What the frick is your point?







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I cannot believe I'm doing this.


Join the club. This dude is a blind engineer. Poli Sci is an argument. It is not a science. It is an art. And scientists can't understand that.






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the Constitution


which was left with open ends on purpose by the founding fathers.

No one will EVER be right. (which is why I find this clowns insistence pretty hysterical) That's one of the beauties of the entire document.

But here lately, the government IS crossing the line when all they're supposed to be doing is overlooking a set of 50 states. Not bullying/running states on their own.

The US is 50 unique states that should be run by the population of said states. Not by the federal government.






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Thank you for that. Finally some proof. That's all I was looking for. See how easy that was?





Go frick yourself. I made all those exact same points, and you'll only believe it because i linked you somewhere on the internet.






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GumboBurrito
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Join the club. This dude is a blind engineer. Poli Sci is an argument. It is not a science. It is an art. And scientists can't understand that.


You couldn't be more wrong here. I just wanted you to back up your claims, as you finally did. I guess there is no room for proof in Political Science huh? That's odd because most other "constitutional scholars" gladly provide proof when asked. You were the first person I've ever met that refused to back up his claims. Pretty odd if you ask me.






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The Supreme Court is not final because it is always right. It is always right because it is final.





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Breesus
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You were the first person I've ever met that refused to back up his claims.

I backed up my claims plenty of times. Its sad that you couldnt/ wouldnt see the validity of that proof until you saw a link on the internet.






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The US is 50 unique states that should be run by the population of said states. Not by the federal government.


Amen.






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The Supreme Court is not final because it is always right. It is always right because it is final.



well said






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GumboBurrito
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I backed up my claims plenty of times. Its sad that you couldnt/ wouldnt see the validity of that proof until you saw a link on the internet.


You never stated your sources. You just claimed one word answers which did not substantially back up your claims.

You provided a more credible source than yourself. One that actually explained themselves.

Yeah. I do tend to believe people when they have actual experience in the field, such as the organization that you quoted.

You are a college kid. Big difference.



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