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Charlin SxS Shotgun (Pics inside)
Posted on 10/25/12 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 10/25/12 at 12:56 pm
I inherited this shotgun from my late grandfather who brought it back from WWII. I've tried to research it but have found next to nothing about it other than it was French made, which leads me to believe it is a really rare gun.
I've never shot it but I'm pretty sure it's a 16 ga. It has 26 3/4" barrels and if I measured it right then it has a 2 3/4" chamber.
It has some patina and the wood only has minor scrapes and dings.
It has a very unique sliding breech, like nothing I have seen before.
I'm guessing this "S" engraving means safety since it's next to the safety pin. Seems like an odd place to put a proof mark if that's what it is?
Anyone know anything about these shotguns? I would love to learn more about it and any information is appreciated.
Sorry for the shitty cell phone pics.
I've never shot it but I'm pretty sure it's a 16 ga. It has 26 3/4" barrels and if I measured it right then it has a 2 3/4" chamber.
It has some patina and the wood only has minor scrapes and dings.
It has a very unique sliding breech, like nothing I have seen before.
I'm guessing this "S" engraving means safety since it's next to the safety pin. Seems like an odd place to put a proof mark if that's what it is?
Anyone know anything about these shotguns? I would love to learn more about it and any information is appreciated.
Sorry for the shitty cell phone pics.
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Posted on 10/25/12 at 12:57 pm to JimMorrison
Wickowick will know where to point you.
Very cool gun
Very cool gun
Posted on 10/25/12 at 1:00 pm to JimMorrison
Its a rare French made gun. Considered an odd-ball and somewhat collectable.
Here's an engraved gun that sold for $1,700 earlier this year.
LINK
Here's an engraved gun that sold for $1,700 earlier this year.
LINK
Posted on 10/25/12 at 1:02 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Posted on 10/25/12 at 1:07 pm to JimMorrison
Doublegun Shop
Check here, someone should be able to point you in the right direction and if the factory records are still available.
ETA- LINK
LINK
Check here, someone should be able to point you in the right direction and if the factory records are still available.
ETA- LINK
LINK
This post was edited on 10/25/12 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 10/25/12 at 1:27 pm to JimMorrison
Posted on 10/25/12 at 2:20 pm to wickowick
From the Blue book of Guns. Guns patterned after Darne Firearms.
Bird Hunter Model R11
Pheasant Hunter R15
MAgnum R16
Quail hunter V19
Model V22
Hors Series No.1 Model V
The price get higer and the list gets longer.
Bird Hunter Model R11
Pheasant Hunter R15
MAgnum R16
Quail hunter V19
Model V22
Hors Series No.1 Model V
The price get higer and the list gets longer.
Posted on 10/25/12 at 4:20 pm to JimMorrison
I wouldn't sell it man. Set that thing on the mantle and let it remind your family of how great your grandpa and his generation were. 
Posted on 10/25/12 at 4:24 pm to JimMorrison
that is one beautiful gun
Posted on 10/25/12 at 4:47 pm to McKinneyttu97
quote:
From the Blue book of Guns. Guns patterned after Darne Firearms.
Bird Hunter Model R11
Pheasant Hunter R15
MAgnum R16
Quail hunter V19
Model V22
Hors Series No.1 Model V
The price get higer and the list gets longer.
Yeah, the problem is I have no idea what model this gun is. I have seen highly engraved Charlins on the internet and also from some of the links posted above depict hunting scenes. This is just a guess but since mine is blank it was probably issued to soldiers during the war.
One of the links wickowick posted shows how to take the barrels off to see the proof marks, but the button is kind of stuck (this gun probably hasn't been fired in 30 years) and I don't want to force it and frick it up.
And I'm not looking to sell it, family heirloom and all, but I would like to know the value.
I'm just fascinated with antique guns and the cool history they represent. I would like to think that this gun had its fair share of Nazi killin in WWII.
Also, this one is especially intriguing because of the unique design and the incredibly lacking information to be found on the gun maker Charlin.This post was edited on 10/25/12 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 10/25/12 at 6:56 pm to JimMorrison
Very doubtful that the gun was used in combat. Largely because shotguns aren't preferred for military use due to limited range and accuracy issues. What's more it's French, so if it did see a battlefield it was likely dropped by a French soldier that was hauling arse away from the Germans. In which case it would be in like new and unused condition. 
Posted on 10/25/12 at 8:21 pm to wiltznucs
quote:
What's more it's French, so if it did see a battlefield it was likely dropped by a French soldier that was hauling arse away from the Germans.
Quite possible. My grandad was stationed in France and Germany, but I could see the shotguns used while clearing out buildings.
Posted on 10/25/12 at 8:33 pm to JimMorrison
I have Darne' from my great uncle that has the exact smae breech design. Very cool gun! 
Posted on 9/21/13 at 4:43 pm to Tbooux
I have one, and identical model. I found it a a local gun show and they were calling it a Darne. I had purchased a delightful little English stocked Darne 28 Ga a couple of years ago and having done a bit of research knew the difference.
I went home and got on the internet and started trying to research Charlins and found very little information. I did find enough to know they were asking way too much, so I tracked down the dealer and made an offer of half what they were asking and got it. It had seen better days, but metal was good, stock had some dents which I steamed out, then I got a small, fine riffler file and spent hours cleaning up the checkering. It's a nice gun now
One thing, do not try to disassemble. the sliding breech on the Charlin rides on some small,hidden, spring loaded ball bearings which makes the action so incrediably smooth.
The action on the Charlin action locks by the simple means of the toggle camming over the top, which is totally sufficient for a shotgun. A Darne not only toggles over but has a bolt that raises up into a recess in a barrel extension making it an extremely strong action, so strong that the Darne guns have been chambered for some of the large dangerous game cartridges.
The Charlin and Darne guns were popular in tropical regions as shotguns because the extraction was so much more positive and stronger than that of a break action gun, an important feature in the days of paper shells which could expand and not extract easily.
There is a forum, primarily on French shotguns with a Darne specific area that includes a little info on the Charlin
Look here LINK
It is run by a Frenchman gunsmith/engraver up in NY who is now the sole importer of Darne guns to the US..
I said a lot but still did not give a lot of info as there is not a lot out there, but hope it helps.
I saw one on an internet auction site 4-5 years ago, highly engraved and inlaid with different colors of gold. It had been presented to some American engineer by some royal family in southeast Asia back in the late 30's as a token of appreciation. If I remember correctly it sold for something in the upper $20,000 range.
I would guess, depending on condition that a model like pictured would be worth $1500-1800.
I went home and got on the internet and started trying to research Charlins and found very little information. I did find enough to know they were asking way too much, so I tracked down the dealer and made an offer of half what they were asking and got it. It had seen better days, but metal was good, stock had some dents which I steamed out, then I got a small, fine riffler file and spent hours cleaning up the checkering. It's a nice gun now
One thing, do not try to disassemble. the sliding breech on the Charlin rides on some small,hidden, spring loaded ball bearings which makes the action so incrediably smooth.
The action on the Charlin action locks by the simple means of the toggle camming over the top, which is totally sufficient for a shotgun. A Darne not only toggles over but has a bolt that raises up into a recess in a barrel extension making it an extremely strong action, so strong that the Darne guns have been chambered for some of the large dangerous game cartridges.
The Charlin and Darne guns were popular in tropical regions as shotguns because the extraction was so much more positive and stronger than that of a break action gun, an important feature in the days of paper shells which could expand and not extract easily.
There is a forum, primarily on French shotguns with a Darne specific area that includes a little info on the Charlin
Look here LINK
It is run by a Frenchman gunsmith/engraver up in NY who is now the sole importer of Darne guns to the US..
I said a lot but still did not give a lot of info as there is not a lot out there, but hope it helps.
I saw one on an internet auction site 4-5 years ago, highly engraved and inlaid with different colors of gold. It had been presented to some American engineer by some royal family in southeast Asia back in the late 30's as a token of appreciation. If I remember correctly it sold for something in the upper $20,000 range.
I would guess, depending on condition that a model like pictured would be worth $1500-1800.
Posted on 9/21/13 at 9:59 pm to jkingrph
I have a 16ga Darne' same exact breech design that i inherited from my great uncle beautiful gun, had mine appraised and was told around $1800. i want to make some sort of display as it its definately too pretty and unique to sit in a safe!
Posted on 9/21/13 at 10:06 pm to Tbooux
just saw my post above from almost a year ago!
solid bump jk
This post was edited on 9/21/13 at 10:08 pm
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