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When is the right time to start a pup on an e collar? Paging wickowick.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 10/18/12 at 5:20 pm
As the title states and what is the best method to introduce them to it.
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Posted on 10/18/12 at 5:24 pm to NYCAuburn
~6 months or right when they loose their baby teeth
Posted on 10/18/12 at 5:25 pm to NYCAuburn
The pup needs to know all of the commands and understand pressure. If the pup does not know what sit means the collar isn't going to work. If the pup doesn't understand that when you say sit and it needs to sit to turn off the shock, the collar won't work.
It has been a while since I trained a pup but that's what I remember.
It has been a while since I trained a pup but that's what I remember.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 5:29 pm to NYCAuburn
You will know when it is time when the dog knows the commands and has been obaying and decides that it can do what it wants when it is out of reach. There are lots of ways to indroduce the pup to the collar. I like to let them wear it for a couple of days prior to using on the dog. Every dog is different in reaction and tolerance to the collar. Start at the lowest setting and slowly increase until the dog notices the shock. That will be the base level and you will rarely need to go mic above that level...
Posted on 10/18/12 at 5:29 pm to MSWebfoot
I have started on the basic yard commands, sit, stay, come, kennel. Heel is so so, he is only four months right now but progressing very well. Looking to start the next steps here in the next month or so. Over thanksgiving I will be following a group of hunters( my family) with him, but far behind. To get him exposed to some gun fire and some fields where birds actually congregate.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 5:37 pm to NYCAuburn
Leave it off him for now or put it on him so he gets used to the weight but don't start using it till it is needed. That normally comes around 6 months. One day you will have him out working and call him back. He will get about 10' away, realized he is faster than you and turn around and run. At that point you will know that it is time...
Posted on 10/18/12 at 5:41 pm to wickowick
Yeah, right now I am trying to get to go further than 50 ft away. He likes to run, then about 50ft he stops turns towards me and sits and waits for me to catch up. I know it will come when he wants to run. Brittany spaniel, btw.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 5:42 pm to wickowick
quote:yep...
He will get about 10' away, realized he is faster than you and turn around and run. At that point you will know that it is time...
Posted on 10/18/12 at 5:43 pm to wickowick
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One day you will have him out working and call him back. He will get about 10' away, realized he is faster than you and turn around and run. At that point you will know that it is time...
I know that's solid advice but still funny.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 6:09 pm to Geauxtiga
My Dogtra collars are set to ~70 out of 126 and if you hold them to your fingers will just make your muscles in your arms twitch. It is all that is needed to keep the mutts in line...
Posted on 10/18/12 at 7:14 pm to NYCAuburn
By no means am I an expert, but this is how I introduced mine to it.
Once it has heel down fairly well on a lead, I walked her at heel. When she would start to wonder off I would tug the lead and nic her. I would apply pressure until she returned to the heel position, not constant pressure, just a series of nics.
Once it has heel down fairly well on a lead, I walked her at heel. When she would start to wonder off I would tug the lead and nic her. I would apply pressure until she returned to the heel position, not constant pressure, just a series of nics.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 7:16 pm to 34venture
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Once it has heel down fairly well on a lead, I walked her at heel. When she would start to wonder off I would tug the lead and nic her. I would apply pressure until she returned to the heel position, not constant pressure, just a series of nics.
Yea but he is running a bird dog, it is in their nature to roam, can't crush that desire...
Posted on 10/18/12 at 7:25 pm to wickowick
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put it on him so he gets used to the weight but don't start using it till it is needed
That's what I'd do.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 7:45 pm to wickowick
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Yea but he is running a bird dog, it is in their nature to roam, can't crush that desire...
Yea, I wish he would roam at this point
Posted on 10/18/12 at 7:53 pm to wickowick
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~70 out of 126
Holy shite. My GSP would die
He freaks out at 40 continous. He's ok on the nicks
Posted on 10/18/12 at 8:18 pm to NYCAuburn
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Yea, I wish he would roam at this point
If you want the dog to roam get some flight trained birds and tie a piece of yarn to its leg. Stronger the bird longer the length of twine. The thread has just enough wind drag to keep the bird from flying out of the country. Kick the bird up and let the dog watch it down. Release dog with the wind in his face and he will go hunt the bird up and I bet he doesn't care where you are. Even if the dog flushes the bird wild you are teaching him to roam and hunt. After he is good at that you can start another thread about "whoa" training and getting him steady to point.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 8:19 pm to Choirboy
I figured you would eventually stumble upon this thread.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 8:22 pm to El Josey Wales
One day I am going to retire from regular work and just play with dogs everyday. I find they are smarter than most of the people that I deal with these days.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 8:23 pm to Choirboy
Been thinking about using mine when training even though my dog is not a pup. The bastard pisses me off. Some days like today he listens like a dream and works well, other days he acts like he has no clue what I want him to do or just doesn't care what I want him to do. Drives me nuts. However he performed better than I even expected for teal season so guess I cant bitch too much.
This post was edited on 10/18/12 at 8:24 pm
Posted on 10/18/12 at 8:26 pm to Choirboy
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. I find they are smarter than most of the people that I deal with these days
This is true. I know those hounds of yours would certainly have enough sense to not vote for Obama.
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