re: Was Stanford hosed?

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um, he wouldnt have ran in unless someone blew a whistle chief.

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You can watch it if you want. He was running in with the whistle still hanging down and didn't raise his hands. I watched for that specifically since I knew you wouldn't be able to hear the whistle on the replay. It's something that isn't really debatable.

1. The whistle blew

2. Taylor's elbow hit the ground short of the goal line, as indicated by photo evidence:





3. Taylor lost control of the ball as he tried to stretch it over the goal line.

4. A Stanford O-lineman recovered the ball, but in college as in the pros, a ball fumbled on 4th down cannot be advanced, so the ball returns to the spot of the fumble. Game over.

5. Evidence to overturn the call on the field must be irrefutable, which hardly occurred here.

Mark May, the haters and the Stanford whiners call all suck it.

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Looks like the refs made the right call. The elbow was down before he extended the ball. Good angle there.

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ESPN won't let facts get in the way of a good story. The angle that defuses the whole argument is conveniently omitted from all ESPN coverage.

I'm laughing it took until pg. 6 for someone to mention the elbow being down. It was the first thing I noticed when I saw the replay. Bunch of ND haters here.

if pereira is going to claim that he needs produce the photographic evidence.

i have yet to see an elbow down or not down.

regardless, the ND players started to celebrate as we can see from this pic:

because they heard whistle blow to stop fwd progress.

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Piece all the shots together.

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since when are replay officials allowed to do this

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Stanford didn't lose because of a bad call, they lost because their coach is an idiot.

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yep he's way to conservative with his play calling.

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That's their fault for celebrating.

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I do agree, the players should have never done so, but they are taught to "play until you hear the whistle."

Regardless, to overturn the call on the field there has to be conclusive evidence, yes? I have yet to see a photo showing Taylors elbow down OR not down so how can we come to any conclusions?

(if a photo exists, Id love to see it; that gif shows nothing)

Abso-fricking-lutely!

fricking Irish.

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2. Taylor's elbow hit the ground short of the goal line, as indicated by photo evidence:

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This. End of discussion.