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re: Worse Call: GB/Seattle MNF or ATL/StL MLB Playoff?
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:58 pm to Supravol22
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:58 pm to Supravol22
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Mean't nothing. You're dumb
Yeah, it meant nothing even though it extended the inning and the tying run ended up coming to the plate. Apparently the other call didn't either since your boys loss the game if we wanna be objective about it here hoss. Interesting to see a meltdown of bandwagoners from a shitty sports town. FWIW, I follow Houston and would have to say Braves fans are almost as terrible as Astros fans. Almost.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 8:04 pm to acgeaux129
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meltdown of bandwagoners from a shitty sports town.
If a fanbase ever had a right to bitch, this is it. And count how many of the braves fans on this board are from atlanta. Probably about 1%. I for one, have no affinity for the city of Atlanta, hell I despise the falcons. I'm a fan of the Braves, not the city of Atlanta.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 8:11 pm to Tigerfan7218
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Some people need to read the rule, if a play is made by an infielder it can be ruled infield fly, regardless of where the catch actually happens. So lets look at the reasonable effort part: dude was camped under the ball until he hears what he believes is a call off from LF and ducks out if the way. The last part is the timely manner part, which I will concede it was a late late call, HOWEVER the ump must make sure it will be a reasonable effort play, hence the delay.
And this makes total sense - otherwise the rule loses its teeth if its not called and you could take advantage of it on a short outfield fly, SS duck out of the way and LF comes in to throw you out.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 8:19 pm to SBC
Okay camped isn't the right word there... But he was there, you can't deny he's gonna make that catch. It's not like it was a running catch, he stops and waits for it to come down.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 8:21 pm to classictiger
Tough to say.
The Atlanta call should've been a lot easier to make and meant more but they don't have the benefit of replay.
They were both absurd.
The Atlanta call should've been a lot easier to make and meant more but they don't have the benefit of replay.
They were both absurd.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 8:23 pm to Tigerfan7218
The GB game, it's not like the Braves would have automatically won if the call went their way.
Wasn't there a ridiculously late timeout call for the guy who hit the Braves homer earlier? I heard about it, didn't catch the details.
The Braves still would have won if they hadn't booted the game away.
Wasn't there a ridiculously late timeout call for the guy who hit the Braves homer earlier? I heard about it, didn't catch the details.
The Braves still would have won if they hadn't booted the game away.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 8:25 pm to gthog61
Estimated distance of the "infield fly" ball was 225 feet fwiw
Posted on 10/5/12 at 8:29 pm to Tigerfan7218
You are an idiot. Absolutely nobody thinks that was the right call. Not even Cardinals fans. You can debate whether that cost us the game but not if it was the right call.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 8:31 pm to Zamoro10
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And this makes total sense - otherwise the rule loses its teeth if its not called and you could take advantage of it on a short outfield fly, SS duck out of the way and LF comes in to throw you out.
So assume there is no infield fly out rule. Under this assumption the SS would have purposefully let the ball drop to have the opportunity at a double play. Can anyone in their right mind say that Kozma(SS) would have intentionally let that ball fall? NO. He had every intention of making that catch or of letting Holliday make that catch. They simply got their signals crossed as to who was going to bring the ball in.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 8:49 pm to classictiger
Coming from a totally neutral fan (I'm an O's guy), that was probably one of the worst calls I've ever seen. Period.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 9:45 pm to SBC
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He was camped? Did you watch the play?
Very much a routine and reasonable play. The right call was made. Get over it. That most definitely didn't cost them the game. Even if the infield isnt called Braves most likely loss. So there is no question that the GB call was far worse, not even close.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 9:46 pm to classictiger
the football call definitely cost GB the game...it was much worse and even stood after replay...not even close!!!!
Posted on 10/5/12 at 9:49 pm to LSUandAU
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...it was much worse and even stood after replay
My understanding is they couldn't review who had posession just if it was caught or not. That's what the announcers were saying after the play anyways.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 9:51 pm to Weagle25
quote:If the defender has posession it obviously isnt a catch right?
My understanding is they couldn't review who had posession just if it was caught or not.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 9:54 pm to ssgtiger
Are you crazy? The ball dropped on a miscommunication between the SS and LF. With 2 players converging on a 225 foot fly ball, there's nothing routine about it. The fact that it was misplayed, by itself, is proof that it was not a routine play and thus a bad call. Worst call I've ever seen.
This post was edited on 10/5/12 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 10/5/12 at 9:55 pm to ssgtiger
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If the defender has posession it obviously isnt a catch right?
It would be a catch by the defender.
And the answer to the original question is obviously ATL/STL.
This post was edited on 10/5/12 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 10/5/12 at 10:07 pm to bringonusc
There have been multiple calls worse than the GB/SEA game this year in the NFL alone. They just didn't happen in primetime when there were no other games.
But there has never been an IFR called on a ball that deep. And there never will be again.
But there has never been an IFR called on a ball that deep. And there never will be again.
This post was edited on 10/5/12 at 10:11 pm
Posted on 10/5/12 at 10:15 pm to motorbreath
Well I guess it is the GB/SEA Game being that the Baseball call was apparently correct.
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@MLBNetworkRadio Former Umpire Supervisor Jim McKean also told our @MikeFerrinSXM - " It was the proper call, even if the signal was a touch late."
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