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flucobaseball
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re: LAPD Gang thugs caught on tape beating a college student for drinking a beer

I did read some of the links, although the Mollen one was a bad link. What exactly do you want me to see from the table of contents?



ChoupiqueSacalait
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Most cops are bad. Ok, based on what?


Most cops would man a "sobriety checkpoint" where EVERYONE unlucky enough to be driving on that stretch of road at that time would be subject to being waved over, checked for ID, and interrogated even if they were entirely innocent and gave no indication of being impaired.

Anyone passively declining to submit to these orders, who just want to be left alone to go on their way, what would happen to them if they just kept rolling through the checkpoint? Would lethal force be used to stop them?

Personally, I'm not willing to use lethal force to stop someone who has given me no reason to suspect him of having done anything wrong other then having the misfortune to have been driving down a stretch of road where I chose to set up a "sobriety checkpoint". I question the morals of someone who is willing to do it. I think they would qualify as bad people.


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re: LAPD Gang thugs caught on tape beating a college student for drinking a beer
im surprised there aren't the usual cop defenders in here even though these cops were cleared by the internal review process as doing nothing wrong


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flucobaseball
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re: LAPD Gang thugs caught on tape beating a college student for drinking a beer
Dude, that didn't address my post at all.


Vince
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re: LAPD Gang thugs caught on tape beating a college student for drinking a beer
Thanks, I've now edited to provide a link to the Mollen Report for those without privileged access.

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What exactly do you want me to see from the table of contents?

Basically, the same problems identified in the report published in 1994 remain as problems today. It appears that the Law Enforcement Community continues to feel as if they are immune from the very laws they are sworn to enforce and superior to those citizens which they have a duty to protect and serve.


GRTiger
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NO. you good cops call out the bad ones in your midst.

YOU.

silence is tacit acceptance.


Yeehaw. I keep trying to tell them Muslims this same thing.


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flucobaseball
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re: LAPD Gang thugs caught on tape beating a college student for drinking a beer
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Basically, the same problems identified in the report published in 1994 remain as problems today. It appears that the Law Enforcement Community continues to feel as if they are immune from the very laws they are sworn to enforce and superior to those citizens which they have a duty to protect and serve.

There is no doubt this is in existence. I just disagree with those who put everyone under the same label.


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LSUcdro
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pigs gonna pig



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ChoupiqueSacalait
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Dude, that didn't address my post at all.


I think detaining people at sobriety checkpoints is bad, an infringement on our freedom and desire to be left alone. A cop manning a checkpoint will be willing to force compliance from all drivers, won't he? I think people willing to force this kind of compliance are bad people.


flucobaseball
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re: LAPD Gang thugs caught on tape beating a college student for drinking a beer
You didn't address the most cops are bad part. In my experience most cops don't participate in checkpoints.
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Vince
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here was much speculation involved in the links. One assumed that if 500 officers were given a polygraph test that fewer than 375 would pass.

With that particular quote, is it not odd that you failed to mention the four questions proposed to be asked on said polygraph test?

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1. Have you ever knowingly and intentionally caused or allowed exagerated statements of fact to be inserted into a written incident report or sworn affidavit?

2. Have you ever knowingly and intentionally made exagerated, embellished or false statements in a written incident report or sworn affidavit for the purpose of procuring or assisting in the criminal prosecution of a fellow citizen?

3. Have you ever knowingly and intentionally made exagerated statements of fact while testifying under oath in court for the purpose of procuring or assisting in the criminal prosecution of a fellow citizen?

4. Have you ever knowingly and intentionally stopped and detained a fellow citizen under false pretenses and without reasonable suspicion




flucobaseball
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re: LAPD Gang thugs caught on tape beating a college student for drinking a beer
Not at all as my post was specifically about it making assumptions...


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i honestly am not surprised that someone doesn't go on a killing spree against cops


Neither am I. I guess they are afraid they'd get jail time.


Vince
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Not at all as my post was specifically about it making assumptions...

Yet the assumptions which you cite, were clearly based on those four questions. Therefore, it is evident that for some underlying reason, you do not agree with those questions being asked of officers as related to their sworn testimony.


BTHog
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Ignorance of the law is irrelevant. You turned the situatuin bad and forced the guy to use a forceful tone. Which is exactly what theu train leos to do. Nine times out of ten a forceful tone will result in complance so that getting physical isnt required.

Its called an escalated response. Suspect does a you do b if he responds with c you move onto d and so forth.


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BTHog
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Too bad for you that our founders set forth a system for deciding on the constitutionality of laws and that system has ruked checkpoint as legal


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flucobaseball
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re: LAPD Gang thugs caught on tape beating a college student for drinking a beer
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Yet the assumptions which you cite, were clearly based on those four questions. Therefore, it is evident that for some underlying reason, you do not agree with those questions being asked of officers as related to their sworn testimony.

Not at all. I don't have an issue with the questions. That's an assumption on your part which is just adding to the assumptions. Look I get it. If you paint it to where it looks like I for some reason dislike when cops are asked about honesty, you can make me look bad. You can make it look like this is the norm. Let's just stick to the topic though. An assumption was made. The assumption is what I pointed out. I even admitted that this police falsifying things is a real problem. So let's just leave it at that.
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Vince
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i honestly am not surprised that someone doesn't go on a killing spree against cops

Neither am I. I guess they are afraid they'd get jail time.

While I can see how some might feel that way, there are only a small number of Law Enforcement Officers which are considered to be bad cops. The larger percentage of good cops who remain silent or attempt to deflect the actions of said bad cops don't deserve to die solely for the actions of their corrupt brothers of the thin blue line.


flucobaseball
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re: LAPD Gang thugs caught on tape beating a college student for drinking a beer
I made some assumptions in my post too. I shouldn't speculate on your motives. I apologize.


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Vince
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re: LAPD Gang thugs caught on tape beating a college student for drinking a beer
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That's an assumption on your part which is just adding to the assumptions.

No assumption on my part, you made a statement earlier regarding your opinion of the author's comment on polygraph testing, yet in your statement, you failed to acknowledge the specific questions which would have comprised the polygraph test.


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