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What happened in 1998?
Posted on 9/20/12 at 10:04 am
Posted on 9/20/12 at 10:04 am
My first memory of LSU football was the 97' game against florida, I was only 6 years old and only have a few images, that pass for memories in my head, of the game, and as far as my child hood goes, the only strong memories of LSU football for me started in 2000. But what I do remember is LSU sucking really bad in 98-99. But specifically to the 98' season, what happened. 1998 Season W-L schedule
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Posted on 9/20/12 at 10:06 am to CHSvideoman
Lou Tepper happened
Posted on 9/20/12 at 10:06 am to CHSvideoman
On the off chance you're not f*cking with us -
Posted on 9/20/12 at 10:07 am to CHSvideoman
I can see how the Georgia loss took some air out of the ballon and then the loss to Florida, but after that it seems like their may have been locker-room problems or a lack in leadership to lose to Kentucky, Ole Miss, etc...it seems like there was a lack in confidence, not talent.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 10:07 am to CHSvideoman
things went bad for Gerry after that UF win.
Ole Miss next week rolled LSU in TS during the day.
Gerry decided he needed to be more involved in the D planning etc....
Led to DC bailing, hiring Tepper and the infamous "drop" linebacker
it was over before anyone knew what the hell happened
Ole Miss next week rolled LSU in TS during the day.
Gerry decided he needed to be more involved in the D planning etc....
Led to DC bailing, hiring Tepper and the infamous "drop" linebacker
it was over before anyone knew what the hell happened
Posted on 9/20/12 at 10:09 am to CHSvideoman
Lou Tepper was hired. His drop back linebacker scheme that he claimed would take 5 years to fully implement. What a joke.
We were actually a very good team in 98. Tyler and Faulk's senior season. We started off 3-0, number 6 in the country.
Then Georgia beat us 28-27, Quincy Carter had like 1 incompletion the entire game.
We were in every game we played that year, including Florida - we just happened to lose pretty much every one in the last 2 minutes.
They were all heartbreaking losses that LSU probably should have won.
But our defense could not stop anyone with the game on the line.
Only reason we lost to Arkansas so badly is because the team was deflated by then.
We were actually a very good team in 98. Tyler and Faulk's senior season. We started off 3-0, number 6 in the country.
Then Georgia beat us 28-27, Quincy Carter had like 1 incompletion the entire game.
We were in every game we played that year, including Florida - we just happened to lose pretty much every one in the last 2 minutes.
They were all heartbreaking losses that LSU probably should have won.
But our defense could not stop anyone with the game on the line.
Only reason we lost to Arkansas so badly is because the team was deflated by then.
This post was edited on 9/20/12 at 10:10 am
Posted on 9/20/12 at 10:13 am to CHSvideoman
Looks like we just lost a ton of really close games. It happens.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 10:14 am to CHSvideoman
"hey they have a really fast player, who should we put on him"
"how about our slowest linebacker?"
"sounds like a plan"
"how about our slowest linebacker?"
"sounds like a plan"
Posted on 9/20/12 at 10:16 am to CHSvideoman
Posted on 9/20/12 at 10:18 am to CHSvideoman
Cecil Collins divided that team in the locker room. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. That helped lead to DiNardo's downfall.
Oh, and that Lou Tepper drop linebacker thing too.
Oh, and that Lou Tepper drop linebacker thing too.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 10:19 am to CHSvideoman
In September of '98 , LSU was actually ranked higher than Tennessee, the eventual BCS champion, the night we beat and Auburn and they beat Florida.
Two losses by 39-36. Only Arkansas really blew us out and nothing against the Hogs, but our guys really mailed it in that day towards the end of the first qtr.
Two losses by 39-36. Only Arkansas really blew us out and nothing against the Hogs, but our guys really mailed it in that day towards the end of the first qtr.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 10:25 am to CHSvideoman
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My first memory of LSU football was the 97' game against florida, I was only 6 years old
This post was edited on 9/20/12 at 10:26 am
Posted on 9/20/12 at 10:40 am to CHSvideoman
We were good till that dickwad Quincy Carter showed up in TS and beat us with that other douche from GA. He played CB and WR. He is an all pro with the Denver Broncos.
We were top 10 and shite rolled downhill after that.
We were top 10 and shite rolled downhill after that.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 11:22 am to CHSvideoman
LSU was preseason #5 or #6 in 1998.
LSU had Kevin Faulk, Rondell Mealy and Cecil Collins on the front cover of SI.
Then Cecil Collins decided to break into a woman's home and stand in front of her bed with his pants down in the dark.
What a waste. He could have been an All-American and All-Pro.
The seeds were actually sown the week AFTER that '97 Florida game. Dinardo could not get along with either his DC or his OC, and got rid of both for Lou Tepper as his DC and some young GA/QB assistant for OC whose name escapes me.
The loss to Georgia just kinda started a downward spriral. It was the week after Georges hit and we had beaten Idaho but gave up 400 yards to the Vandals in the process.
The players did show heart in close losses to Kentucky, at Ole Miss, Alabama and at Notre Dame. In fact the only game they were were really out of was Arkansas to end the year.
(The '97 ND game was at DV, '98 at South Bend).
The Alabama game was mind-numbingly heartbreaking.
We had not beaten Alabama in Death Valley since 1969, and it looked like we would finally win one against them at home. We led something like 16-10 or 16-9 in the 4th quarter, but gave up TWO tipped pass touchdowns to the same receiver, tipped by the same DB, in the same location. Never heard Tiger Stadium quieter.....
Dinardo was a lame-duck in '99.
By December of '99, former Ole Miss and Newman (N.O.) baskeetball player Sean Tuohy, who was friends with Nick Saban's agent Jimmy Sexton, called AD Joe Dean and Chancellor Mark Emmert to tell them they should interview the then-Michigan State coach. The rest is history.......
LSU had Kevin Faulk, Rondell Mealy and Cecil Collins on the front cover of SI.
Then Cecil Collins decided to break into a woman's home and stand in front of her bed with his pants down in the dark.
What a waste. He could have been an All-American and All-Pro.
The seeds were actually sown the week AFTER that '97 Florida game. Dinardo could not get along with either his DC or his OC, and got rid of both for Lou Tepper as his DC and some young GA/QB assistant for OC whose name escapes me.
The loss to Georgia just kinda started a downward spriral. It was the week after Georges hit and we had beaten Idaho but gave up 400 yards to the Vandals in the process.
The players did show heart in close losses to Kentucky, at Ole Miss, Alabama and at Notre Dame. In fact the only game they were were really out of was Arkansas to end the year.
(The '97 ND game was at DV, '98 at South Bend).
The Alabama game was mind-numbingly heartbreaking.
We had not beaten Alabama in Death Valley since 1969, and it looked like we would finally win one against them at home. We led something like 16-10 or 16-9 in the 4th quarter, but gave up TWO tipped pass touchdowns to the same receiver, tipped by the same DB, in the same location. Never heard Tiger Stadium quieter.....
Dinardo was a lame-duck in '99.
By December of '99, former Ole Miss and Newman (N.O.) baskeetball player Sean Tuohy, who was friends with Nick Saban's agent Jimmy Sexton, called AD Joe Dean and Chancellor Mark Emmert to tell them they should interview the then-Michigan State coach. The rest is history.......
This post was edited on 9/20/12 at 11:26 am
Posted on 9/20/12 at 11:37 am to CHSvideoman
Lou Tepped and/or Master P happened.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 11:49 am to CHSvideoman
If I remember right, the LSU offense still scored over 30 pts a game that year. The problem was everybody else scored over 35. Watching that defense felt like getting raped.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 11:59 am to CHSvideoman
I'll tell you what happened! The best damn thing ever to happen in modern LSU football happened! The curtain dropped and the wizard (Dinardo) was exposed as the small minded, idiot that had NO clue how to run a football program. It opened the door to Nick Saban and the rebirth of LSU!!! That's what happened.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 12:27 pm to CHSvideoman
quote:I was 20 years old and present and only have a few images that pass for memories of the game...but one image was riding a goalpost as it was being carried down the field (for about 10 seconds until I fell off and got trampled).
My first memory of LSU football was the 97' game against florida, I was only 6 years old and only have a few images, that pass for memories in my head, of the game
Posted on 9/20/12 at 2:26 pm to CHSvideoman
It also seems as if we had really bad special teams, (PAT's & fieldgoals) i've watched a few 98-99 season games, and we keep on missing these chip shots
Posted on 9/20/12 at 7:03 pm to CHSvideoman
1998 and 1999 were a blessing in disguise. The culture at LSU was so different then... had DiNardo managed a 6-5 record in either of those seasons, you can bet he is retained in 2000. Joe Dean wanted to retain him even after two losing seasons.
Despite similar records, the two teams were very different.
As someone already pointed out, in 1998 each of the losses were close, with the exception of Arkansas. By the Arkansas game, we were 4-6 and already eliminated from bowl contention. The Notre Dame loss basically took the wind of out of their sails, and Herb Tyler was injured. The team would just collapse late in games. We beat hapless Auburn in Jordan Hare (Terry Bowden would quit 2-3 weeks later). We lost the nailbiter to Georgia, Florida basically took care of business in the Swamp, and Tim Couch lit us up in Tiger Stadium, probably securing his spot as the number one pick in that year's draft. I am still perplexed by the fact that we beat SEC West Champ State 41-6, yet didn't win a game for the rest of the year. The Alabama loss was gut wrenching.
1999 we were just so bad, it was unreal. Most of the SEC games weren't even close. 42-24 Ole Miss, 41-7 Auburn, 31-5 Kentucky, 31-10 Florida. Don't forget the only loss to State of the last 20 years.
It's mind boggling to think that LSU managed to drop 10 straight conference games from 98-99.
Despite similar records, the two teams were very different.
As someone already pointed out, in 1998 each of the losses were close, with the exception of Arkansas. By the Arkansas game, we were 4-6 and already eliminated from bowl contention. The Notre Dame loss basically took the wind of out of their sails, and Herb Tyler was injured. The team would just collapse late in games. We beat hapless Auburn in Jordan Hare (Terry Bowden would quit 2-3 weeks later). We lost the nailbiter to Georgia, Florida basically took care of business in the Swamp, and Tim Couch lit us up in Tiger Stadium, probably securing his spot as the number one pick in that year's draft. I am still perplexed by the fact that we beat SEC West Champ State 41-6, yet didn't win a game for the rest of the year. The Alabama loss was gut wrenching.
1999 we were just so bad, it was unreal. Most of the SEC games weren't even close. 42-24 Ole Miss, 41-7 Auburn, 31-5 Kentucky, 31-10 Florida. Don't forget the only loss to State of the last 20 years.
It's mind boggling to think that LSU managed to drop 10 straight conference games from 98-99.
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