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re: 0-2 Super Bowl Winners

Posted on 9/17/12 at 10:14 am to
Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 9/17/12 at 10:14 am to
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we got some pretty bad fundamental issues going on


agree cept dunno if they are really that bad. Legit issues but not beyond repair ones.

My questions of pure defensive talent is the most essential. Even with turnaround to a playoff run there could still be 3 or 4 completely new faces on defense next year.

Still time to hang on the Spags '07 NYG model of hope. 48-78, 0-2 first two games. Then reeled off 6 straight wins at a 152-79 clip.

KC has given up the same 75pts as NOLA and only scored 41 vs. Atl & Buff. If there ever was a ripe must-win this is it.
Posted by tjtiger9
MS
Member since Aug 2005
3849 posts
Posted on 9/17/12 at 10:17 am to
Defense has given the offense a chance in the 4th quarter both games and they blew it both times. Guys, this defense was not built to shut down but rather bend but don't break. The offense has been letting us down with the turnovers and poor execution
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64376 posts
Posted on 9/17/12 at 10:20 am to
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My questions of pure defensive talent is the most essential. Even with turnaround to a playoff run there could still be 3 or 4 completely new faces on defense next year.


Most definitely. I think there will be a pretty decent turnover. You can pretty much kiss Smith and Ellis goodbye.
Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 9/17/12 at 10:26 am to
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this ain't a playoff team


Willing to say the talent on this team is much superior than most of the 12% of 0-2 teams that have made the playoffs. No playoffs is certainly the statistical probability but at this point of the season there are only 3 NFC teams with better than 50% chance of making the playoffs. If the dirty birds fall to 1-1 the Saints at 1-2 playoff probabilities will substantially increase.

NFC Playoff probabilty chart

The 2010 Saints at 4-3 losing to Cleveland 17-30 & 20-30 to the Max Hall led Cardinals didn't look a lot brighter to me
Posted by jdrumdog
baton rouge, la
Member since Jan 2010
7655 posts
Posted on 9/17/12 at 12:30 pm to
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agree cept dunno if they are really that bad. Legit issues but not beyond repair ones.


no, they really are that bad. As much as it hurt to look and think, then come out and say it, that game yesterday, even with brees, was over with late in the second quarter. One thing I was looking for was improvement in both offense and defense. I saw neither, and if anything, saw regression in the defense from week 1 to 2.

This defense is now going to take a pure rebuilding mode standpoint. I'm glad we inked brees, but we dont have time for a rebuilding mode on either side of the ball. Unfortunately I think the defense is, as of right now, in dire need of it.
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