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re: Game of Thrones Re-Read/Re-Watch Project (Multiple Book Spoilers)

Posted on 9/18/12 at 11:00 pm to
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 9/18/12 at 11:00 pm to
I'm starting a little early because I know some of you boys are night owls.

So we're discussing this week the first four chapters in GoT: Prologue, Bran I, Catelyn I, Daenerys I

Prologue Summary

Bran I Summary

Catelyn I Summary

Daenerys I Summary

Prologue: One of the questions I always have after reading this (fricking awesome opening BTW) is do the wights and Others bring the Winter or does the Winter bring the Others and the wights?

Prologue, P. 13
quote:

Answer me! Why is it so cold?” It was cold. Shivering, Will clung more tightly to his perch. His face pressed hard against the trunk of the sentinel. He could feel the sweet, sticky sap on his cheek


My next one question is can Sir Waymar Royce still be "alive" as a wight? We see at the end of the Prologue that he is killing Will. But you only get mention of him later on. And of course George RR Martin goes into great detail about his wardrobe in multiple places during the Prologue. Most specifically on p. 7:

quote:

His cloak was his crowning glory; sable, thick and black and soft as sin


Of course Martin could describe the texture of a pear for 5 pages so it could just be grasping. I just find it interesting that he's described as he is. I can't help but feel like we'll come across him later.

And of course for those who enjoy the show, I can't help but share the show's portrayal of the Prologue because it's what immediately drew me in.

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Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 9/18/12 at 11:09 pm to
I'm in the middle of ADwD and am enjoying it much more than AFfC. That was an absolute chore to get through.
Posted by auyushu
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Posted on 9/19/12 at 4:29 am to
quote:

Prologue: One of the questions I always have after reading this (fricking awesome opening BTW) is do the wights and Others bring the Winter or does the Winter bring the Others and the wights?



Chicken or the egg thing really, but I've always gone for the Others bringing the Winter. Just seemed like one of their weapons to me.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 9/19/12 at 8:36 am to
It appears that the Others come down with the Winter. There attacks and appearances do appear to be very "seasonal".

I'm sure the appearance of the Others also drops the temperature from that of normal winter.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 9/19/12 at 9:42 am to
quote:

Prologue: One of the questions I always have after reading this (fricking awesome opening BTW) is do the wights and Others bring the Winter or does the Winter bring the Others and the wights?

I would compare the Others with a blizzard. The Winter is already there but the Others are a harsher manifestation.

My big question about the Others pertains to their armor and weapons. They are described in detail during the prologue as
quote:

seem[ing] to change color as it moved; here it was white as new-fallen snow, there black as shadow, everywhere dappled with the grey-green of the trees.[Page 8-9]


And further on Page 9 they describe the Others weapon as
quote:

a longsword like none Will had ever seen. No human metal had gone into the forging of that blade. It was alive with moonlight, translucent, a shard of crystal so thin that it seemed to almost vanish when seen edge-on....


So my question is where do they get outfitted? We know that they don't magically receive them when they are transformed because Ser Waymar Royce is described as still wearing his tattered cloak and moleskin gloves when he turns. Plus he strangles Will instead of using his sword to kill him. So, is there an Other stronghold an "8 or possibly 9 day" ride from the Wall?
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