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Danerys Targaryen
Aegon VI (not to be confused with Young Griff*)
Jon Snow

Not to be confused with potential dragon riders; which would be a different debate altogether (or maybe not).

This topic comes up quite frequently on ASOIAF discussion boards. And quite frankly, I am always a bit surprised that anyone would suggest that there other options for the 3HofD.

It appears to me that all of the facts are pretty well laid out for this one. The prophesy from the House of the Undying makes it very clear that Aegon and and Dany are two of the 3HotD. And everything we know about Jon, including R + L = J, solidfy him as being the third.

Do we have a consensus?

Well, count me as a dissenting vote, because I think you have the same person listed twice. I think that Jon Snow is the Aegon from the vision and the woman in the bed was Lyanna. Again, "the Song of Ice and Fire", Lyanna is Ice and Rhaegar is Fire. I still believe that we'll have another Ice and Fire with Dany and Jon, but I'm less sure of that than I am about Jon being Aegon.

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Posted by Methuselah

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Posted on 6/24/13 at 8:22 pm to ffishstik

I wonder if the Others will have any kind of weapon on a par with the Dragons.

Unless they plan to just have the Dragons arrive at the last minute to save the day or one or two of the dragons don't make it to the battle, it seems like they would be a pretty overwhelming advantage against the Others.

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Posted by ladytiger118

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Posted on 6/24/13 at 8:42 pm to ffishstik

Never thought about the HotU vision in that context. When I read ACOK, I always assumed it was Elia and Aegon, and Rhaegar basically alluding to how he needs another child but Elia can't have any more children, which brings Jon into being the PtwP and HotD.

But Rhaegar died before Lyanna did, and never got to meet Jon.

My question is, what happens if Lyanna lived? Would Ned have protected her by sending her and baby Jon to Essos, similar to Aegon? I can't imagine that Ned would let Robert kill his nephew and Lyanna.

And if Elia and her 2 kids as well as Rhaella lived, would Elia, Rhaenys, Aegon, Rhaella, Viserys, Dany, Lyanna, & Jon live in some sort of Targaryen stronghold elsewhere?

Also, would Robert still have wanted Lyanna if he knew she had a baby with Rhaegar? Something tells me 'hell no.' This opens up a huge can of worms. Now I see why Lyanna had to die in labor. Easier for GRRM to write and set up his story

This post was edited on 6/24/13 at 8:45 pm

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Posted by shinerfan

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Posted on 6/24/13 at 10:45 pm to ffishstik

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I think that Jon Snow is the Aegon from the vision and the woman in the bed was Lyanna.

I have seen various posts on other sites where it was claimed that Martin has confirmed it was Princess Elia in the vision but I've never found the actual quote. So Spake Martin apparently can only be navigated by date and location and not subject matter.

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My theory is that Aegon had already been born.

Ned found Lyanna "in her bed of blood". I read that as recent childbirth. Very recent.

But Martin has made some cryptic statements about how we all think we know what happened at the ToJ.

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