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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Posted on 4/16/14 at 10:12 pm to ladytiger118
Posted on 4/16/14 at 10:12 pm to ladytiger118
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Sandor would. She'd be marrying the knight that she always dreamed about..
There is no doubt.
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 10:14 pm to Methuselah
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- I'm not seeing Jamie as turning against the Lannisters to the point of launching a surprise flank attack on them just yet.
The only way I see it is if it comes down to saving Tommen from the wrath of Cersei. That is the only way he'd betray the Lannisters. He knows Cersei is crazy enough to murder her own child, so he'd try to take King's Landing, kill Cersei, and remove his own child from the crown in order to protect him and make him Lord of Casterly Rock.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 10:16 pm to ladytiger118
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I've always liked the idea of an UnCat-Littlefinger meeting.
It would be interesting for sure, and I have no idea how it would go down. UnCat doesn't know about LF's involvement, and would be able to claim on him saving her daughter from the Lannisters, so I don't think she would kill him unless Sansa told her about some of the things LF said or of killing Lysa.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 10:18 pm to Methuselah
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Oh, and who is the seven stringed fellow? One of the Brotherhood?
Tom Sevenstrings
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A Feast for Crows
When Ser Jaime Lannister visits the camp of the Freys during the siege of Riverrun, Tom is present as a musician in the company of Ser Ryman Frey. Jaime has Tom follow him after claiming Edmure Tully.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 10:18 pm to OMLandshark
That would be some cruel irony on Jamie because he probably does not know anything about it but Tommen pretty much has to bite the dust if the whole "shrouds of gold" prophecy is accurate.
This post was edited on 4/16/14 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 4/16/14 at 10:19 pm to OMLandshark
We all remember how well their last meeting went 
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"I've loved you since I was a boy...It seems to me that fate has given us this chance..."
. "I've loved you since I was a boy...It seems to me that fate has given us this chance..."
Posted on 4/16/14 at 10:22 pm to ladytiger118
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"I've loved you since I was a boy...It seems to me that fate has given us this chance..."
I doubt book Littlefinger would say that. As GRRM said, he is the character most different from his book form to tv form. Cat has no idea in the books that he betrayed Ned.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 10:24 pm to OMLandshark
He's definitely different from books to show...but there's no doubt that book and show Littlefinger can't get over Cat, and that rejection is what drove him to become who he is.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 10:24 pm to ladytiger118
I just realized, with all our crackpot theorizing, we seldom touch on much to do with actually fighting the others and winning the battle for the dawn (I think that's what its called?).
I guess it's just because they are so far just pretty much a nebulous enemy with no real character development at all.
I can almost see them relegated to maybe just one final huge battle towards the end.
I guess it's just because they are so far just pretty much a nebulous enemy with no real character development at all.
I can almost see them relegated to maybe just one final huge battle towards the end.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 10:32 pm to OMLandshark
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This prophecy seems to refer to the Starks themselves. The Mountain has had almost nothing to do with them aside from pissing Arya off. The Giant is Littlefinger himself. The Giant of Stone refers to the Titan of Braavos (his house sigil), and the darkness represents his dark soul and a black hole wanting to engulf everything, and his black blood indicates how absolute rotten to the core he is on the inside.
eh don't see it. if anything i see it talking about robert strong and the hound, the other armored like the sun, golden and beautiful is the wildcard
Posted on 4/16/14 at 10:38 pm to CE Tiger
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the other armored like the sun, golden and beautiful is the wildcard
Could be either Jaime or Joffrey, both of which were a direct threat to the Starks at the time and have a very direct connection to the Starks' destiny. The Mountain is just a mindless animal (more so now than he was then).
I just don't see them bringing up Littlefinger's actual sigil being the Titan if they don't plan to do some foreshadowing with it. Littlefinger is looming over all of them. He seeks to destroy them all and probably has the destiny most tied with the Starks more so than any other major character. A maid is said to slay a giant, and that maid does slay somewhat of a giant and puts it's head on the wall of a snow castle designed after Winterfell. Arya thinks on how the Titan would be able to step over the walls of Winterfell.
Even Littlefinger's nickname is drenched in irony. Your little finger is supposed to be the most harmless part of your body, but Littlefinger has proven to be the opposite of that and be the single most dangerous man in the realm. He is the giant that is constantly referenced, and the Mountain is merely the red herring. It's subtle, but it makes sense.
This post was edited on 4/16/14 at 10:40 pm
Posted on 4/16/14 at 10:44 pm to OMLandshark
Those descriptions seem to describe The Hound, Jamie and Robert Strong more so than anyone. Of course The Hound and Jamie are both on pretty heavy redemption arcs so maybe their part refers to things earlier in the books.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:01 pm to Methuselah
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I just realized, with all our crackpot theorizing, we seldom touch on much to do with actually fighting the others and winning the battle for the dawn (I think that's what its called?).
I've noticed this too, the only real crack pot battle is the wall coming down.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:13 pm to Methuselah
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Those descriptions seem to describe The Hound, Jamie and Robert Strong more so than anyone. Of course The Hound and Jamie are both on pretty heavy redemption arcs so maybe their part refers to things earlier in the books.
The Hound and Jaime are very intertwined with the Starks' lives, but the Mountain isn't at all really. It just seems that his presence there is pointless. It makes more sense to me that the Mountain is merely a red herring and that the man who towers over all of them is Littlefinger, who is a threat to everyone in the realm.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:13 pm to OMLandshark
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Even Littlefinger's nickname is drenched in irony. Your little finger is supposed to be the most harmless part of your body, but Littlefinger has proven to be the opposite of that and be the single most dangerous man in the realm. He is the giant that is constantly referenced, and the Mountain is merely the red herring. It's subtle, but it makes sense.
And it also reflects everyone's attitude about him. Everyone in King's Landing (save for Varys, Ned when it was too late, Tyrion) thought he was harmless and that he was so low birth that he couldn't do anyone harm.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 7:20 am to ladytiger118
George RR Martin posted a new excerpt about Aegon
The Conquerer on his website. It gives some good historical background on the time of his Landing. One piece that I learned which I probably should have known already but missed while reading the main series: The Iron Born were the original lords of Harrenhal. I had no idea, and just assumed the families who ruled there originally were killed by Aegon and Co. Makes me more interested in the Greyjoys and rest of the Iron Born to know that they were once some of the original kings of the continent of Westeros, and not just the Iron Islands.
The Conquerer on his website. It gives some good historical background on the time of his Landing. One piece that I learned which I probably should have known already but missed while reading the main series: The Iron Born were the original lords of Harrenhal. I had no idea, and just assumed the families who ruled there originally were killed by Aegon and Co. Makes me more interested in the Greyjoys and rest of the Iron Born to know that they were once some of the original kings of the continent of Westeros, and not just the Iron Islands.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:10 am to bodask42
Yeah, but the Greyjoys had nothing to do with Harrenhal. The Hoare House was the ruling house of the Iron Islands and had conquered the river lands and more. Then Black Harren came along a went all Tower of Babel. Right when he completed it Aegon decided to invent the game in jenga in the land of Westeros.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:26 am to thatguy1892
So I have never seen this discussed on here, if it has my apologies, but what is everyone's thoughts on what has happened at Winterfell at the end of the books so far and why Ramsay wrote that letter to Jon?
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:37 am to leoj
Ramsay is a POS, I assume that is why he wrote letter?
Posted on 4/17/14 at 9:10 am to leoj
Assuming Ramsay wrote the letter; some fans think it could've been Mel, Mance, or Stannis who wrote it. The seal of the letter was just pink wax/doesn't resemble any of the previous letters Ramsay has sent (plus he usually writes in blood I think and puts some flayed skin in there).
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