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re: SIAP Slashfilm: 15 things that bothered us about TDKR *SPOILERS!*

Posted on 7/24/12 at 12:21 pm to
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 12:21 pm to
I'm fairly confident they had a story arc in mind for ledger to return as joker
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 12:24 pm to
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The fighting was pretty bad. During one of the scenes, you can actually see a guy bent over waiting for batman to finish off his buddy, and as soon as batman knocks the guy out, he springs into action. Kinda felt like I was watching the Royal Rumble.


Another good one is when Gordon and the guys start taking out the roaming guard/convoys in the city. One of them is a hummer type vehicle with a guy mounted at top turret gun. They stop the vehicle, and the guy at the gun just sits there, hands on the turret, and doesn't move nor fire the weapon at the guy climbing up at him; and proceeds to get hit right in the face.
Posted by Duzz
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 12:30 pm to
You realized Batman banged Batgirl,aka Barbara Gordon while she was in college right?
Posted by The Egg
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 12:31 pm to
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Kinda felt like I was watching the Royal Rumble.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 1:02 pm to
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They stop the vehicle, and the guy at the gun just sits there, hands on the turret, and doesn't move nor fire the weapon at the guy climbing up at him; and proceeds to get hit right in the face.


The turret guy got kicked in the face by someone that jumped down from above him, not a guy climbing up.
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 1:48 pm to
If you accept that Bruce is dead, then most of that last one is moot.
Posted by thatguy1892
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 2:09 pm to
I love how they have a problem with Ras training his daughter in 15 years but didn't he train Bruce in like a few months? Fail.

How did Blake find out the identity? Here's the deal he confronted Bruce about but did Bruce ever deny it? Ever don't that to people taking a wild guess only for them to admit it to you? I have do it all the time.


Up, down, up. Jesus. He had 5 months to get into shape in a prison with nothing to do what else is he going to do.
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Alford left so what? Quit being a bitch.

The SEC thing. Who cares? It's a movie, suspend the imagination on a few things.

The sex thing. Well if that's the case Fatal Attration is the worse movie ever. Also maybe she was horny.

Street artist. We never find out when he got back and he needed a signal to notify people he's back and to rally. Get over it.

Background check thing is just stupid and shouldn't even be a problem.

Why Bane took a break. "It's about sending a message."

How did he get back without resources. How did he get to China in BB?

The prison thing. Jesus. Read the damn comic.

Post Gotham. Who cares what it looks like? Oh no people aren't in the streets. It's cold as shite. Would you be in the streets?

GPD all in. Yeah that is a problem but at the same time they didn't know Bane's numbers you've got to be careful.

The fights. Don't care, get over it.

The ending. Take it how you want and be happy. He gave Blake the keys, but didn't tell him he had to use them. Get over it.






This post was edited on 7/24/12 at 2:12 pm
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 2:55 pm to
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Posted by Siderophore
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 2:55 pm to
Fair number of problems I agree with...others are reaching.

CIA point for instance, over not seeing the non stealth plane.

Wait....you really think they are plugged into ATC all over the world? Global radar feeds?

Another was the Batman/Wayne dying together and no one piecing it.....Wayne disappeared 6 months prior, and the only ones who saw him return knew he was Batman anyway.

Street artist and background check points are great ones though.
Posted by Siderophore
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 2:58 pm to
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I got slammed for saying this right after seeing the movie but I stand by it.


Well it didn't help that some of the examples you cited were absurd and obviously false to anyone who saw the film.

*scoffs*
Thought he carried the rope up due to bad editing.
Posted by Siderophore
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 3:00 pm to
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Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 3:00 pm to
It's believability, dude...
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Up, down, up. Jesus. He had 5 months to get into shape in a prison with nothing to do what else is he going to do.

I think the point of that one is that he had a massive back injury, then seemed to reinjure it three times trying to make the climb (when it seemed to kill the first man who fell). And it's a very valid argument.
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The SEC thing. Who cares? It's a movie, suspend the imagination on a few things.

Right, but some terrorist and his army storm into the SEC with guns and start making trades, and the result is that basically everything they did stands and is allowed?

It's one thing to suspend belief here and there, but that requires you to basically suspend any and all logic within a very logical world that Nolan himself created.
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The prison thing. Jesus. Read the damn comic.

Absolutely terrible reasoning. Read the comic? It's a stand-alone movie franchise...the comics shouldn't come into play. Sure, it's source material. But the Nolans aren't making the movies to where they have required prerequisite readings in order to make them make sense.

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Quit being a bitch.

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Who cares? It's a movie, suspend the imagination on a few things.

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Get over it.

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is just stupid and shouldn't even be a problem

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Jesus. Read the damn comic

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Don't care, get over it.

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Get over it.

Very sound reasoning from you. Outstanding work. Why the frick would you even care enough to respond to any of this if you're just gonna bitch out like a five year old?
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 3:01 pm to
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CIA point for instance, over not seeing the non stealth plane.


Not to mention a CIA agent is more likely to charter a cheap flight in some middle of nowhere country than have a decked out military plane.

The whole point of an undercover agent is to stay out of the limelight.

I agree with not looking at the captives before getting on the plane, but that would have killed all the suspense of the scene. A very forgivable scene.
Posted by Dodgson
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 3:05 pm to
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The Post-Bane Gotham Feels Totally Fake - Sure, it’s cinematic to have Scarecrow hosting weird trials and sending people off into icy exile. But after that initial, effective sequence of watching rich people ripped out of their homes on 5th avenue, nothing about this Gotham feels real anymore. The streets are barren, but nearly pristine. We see only rare glimpses of the occasional Tumbler patrol. Emergency relief trucks pull up with ease. There seems to be no disorder on the streets, but hell breaks loose indoors on a regular basis. This never felt like a fully-realized place, only a series of gorgeous tableaus.


I agree with this one. It was a major reason I wasn't able to get sucked in to the third act of the movie. I heard a complaint prior to seeing the film that said that we never really get to see these events from the POV of the normal people of Gotham. We see the police trapped and people hoarded into buildings, but even then, they are just sort of faceless masses. How has their life changed since being forced to hide? What do they think is going to happen to them? A little time spent getting their POV would have made a huge difference and given the third act a greater sense of urgency IMO.
This post was edited on 7/24/12 at 3:17 pm
Posted by Siderophore
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 3:05 pm to
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I think the point of that one is that he had a massive back injury, then seemed to reinjure it three times trying to make the climb (when it seemed to kill the first man who fell). And it's a very valid argument.


I thought the exact same thing about the other guy.

Folks are over exaggerating the back injury because everyone knows by now the Knightfall saga with the broken back....aided by them redoing the comic cover on screen.

But I thought being jackknifed after the fall killed the guy.

That was the punishment for trying....the rope wasn't a safety...it was to prevent a mess on the floor.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 3:17 pm to
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That was the punishment for trying....the rope wasn't a safety...it was to prevent a mess on the floor.

I kinda thought the same thing. And at the very least, if you survived, you'd be fricked the frick up pretty badly.

Especially if you have an already-horrible back injury from the start.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 3:21 pm to
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Especially if you have an already-horrible back injury from the start.


...or! the snap of hte rope actually has the opposite effect and POPS your vertebrae back into place! wahla you are now healed.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 3:22 pm to
Actually, some types of broken vertebrae heal very quickly. His vertebrae obviously didn't shift enough to paralyze him so the break may not have been all that serious.

A compression fracture with a misalignment can heal in a matter of fews if the misalignment is treated correctly.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 3:23 pm to
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A compression fracture with a misalignment can heal in a matter of fews if the misalignment is treated correctly.

A few what..? And is "treated correctly" the same as being in a filthy prison cell hanging from a crudely-hung rope?
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 3:27 pm to
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A few what..?



Weeks, sorry

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And is "treated correctly" the same as being in a filthy prison cell hanging from a crudely-hung rope?




I would be more concerned with the lifetime prisoners quick hand strike to set the vertebrae.

Obviously you have to suspend belief in superhero movies ... this was one of the those times.
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