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re: Bob Costas just called for death penalty at PSU
Posted on 7/15/12 at 11:53 am to Mr. Tom Morrow
Posted on 7/15/12 at 11:53 am to Mr. Tom Morrow
yes,of course there will be civil suits,hopefully massive civil suits.It's just not enough,imo.
The athletic department has to be severely punished.I don't know the numbers,but football has to be the far and away number 1 revenue source.
They need to be financially crippled after everything that has happened,and I don't think it's over yet.There may be more damning evidence yet to come.
The athletic department has to be severely punished.I don't know the numbers,but football has to be the far and away number 1 revenue source.
They need to be financially crippled after everything that has happened,and I don't think it's over yet.There may be more damning evidence yet to come.
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Posted on 7/15/12 at 11:56 am to H-Town Tiger
i've been a real hard arse on the issue because i understand the penn state culture....
the death penalty is what's required here to break the culture...
not only does there need to be a cleanout of the athletic department but the administration as well and if they get as much as one dime from the state and the fed there needs to be transparency and accountability across the the entire university....
the death penalty is what's required here to break the culture...
not only does there need to be a cleanout of the athletic department but the administration as well and if they get as much as one dime from the state and the fed there needs to be transparency and accountability across the the entire university....
Posted on 7/15/12 at 11:57 am to OMLandshark
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the only thing that can teach people like you is suffering.
The hell does he have to do with what happened? Why does he need to be "taught a lesson"?
Posted on 7/15/12 at 11:58 am to ScoopAndScore
quote:i'm not really sure how sensationalized it is? we have 14 years of child molestation and rape, we have THE iconic coach of our times casting a blind eye, and we have the university who continually was held up as being holier than thou involved in despicable acts, and probably the greatest fall from grace ever.
The media now is clearly over sensationalizing the story for their own gain.
if anything the coverage could be even greater.
Posted on 7/15/12 at 11:59 am to oilfieldtiger
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I hear the arguments that Penn State is trying to change, but then i also see that the Board of Trustees is still being influenced by Paterno from beyond the grave -- what if we take down his statue, will it effect fundraising? stuff like that.
My opinion is that the university is slowly going to remove JoePa from PSU to avoid a full blown meltdown. Remember, this is an event never before experienced at a major university that I'm aware of. If the ripped everything away like a band aid, the situation would boil over. I think his statue is coming down and hopefully replaced with a monument for the victims. This needs to be acknowledged and not buried which will help the university and victims heal.
Posted on 7/15/12 at 12:01 pm to Srbtiger06
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The hell does he have to do with what happened? Why does he need to be "taught a lesson"?
Because that mentality justified this shite. That mentality needs to be wiped away completely for Penn State to move on and to make sure nothing like this ever happens again.
Posted on 7/15/12 at 12:01 pm to oilfieldtiger
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The media now is clearly over sensationalizing the story for their own gain.
i'm not really sure how sensationalized it is? we have 14 years of child molestation and rape, we have THE iconic coach of our times casting a blind eye, and we have the university who continually was held up as being holier than thou involved in despicable acts, and probably the greatest fall from grace ever.
if anything the coverage could be even greater.
+100000000000000000000
and the credibility of the NCAA is at stake as well, particularly after the sanctions they laid on CALTECH of all places because of the way they handle students trying courses out!!!!!
Posted on 7/15/12 at 12:03 pm to OMLandshark
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Because that mentality justified this shite. That mentality needs to be wiped away completely for Penn State to move on and to make sure nothing like this ever happens again.
That makes zero sense. Should every sports media personality be punished too? They've all talked highly of Joe until this happened. Were they enabling it as well? Where do you stop?
Posted on 7/15/12 at 12:04 pm to Mr. Tom Morrow
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I think his statue is coming down and hopefully replaced with a monument for the victims. This needs to be acknowledged and not buried which will help the university and victims heal.
I doubt the victims want to have anything further to do with this shite, aside from a hefty lawsuit against the university. I sure as hell know I wouldn't want my traumatizing event of getting fricked in the arse to be immortalized in stone.
Posted on 7/15/12 at 12:06 pm to OMLandshark
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I doubt the victims want to have anything further to do with this shite, aside from a hefty lawsuit against the university. I sure as hell know I wouldn't want my traumatizing event of getting fricked in the arse to be immortalized in stone.
good point.....
Posted on 7/15/12 at 12:06 pm to Srbtiger06
Because most sports can handle that responsibly, not let it devolve to years of child rape. It really just boils down to the fact that it's just a game. Once murder, rape, and theft start getting involved though, it should be an easy decision to put the game aside and do the right thing.
Posted on 7/15/12 at 12:07 pm to vl100butch
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and the credibility of the NCAA is at stake as well, particularly after the sanctions they laid on CALTECH of all places because of the way they handle students trying courses out!!!!!
Cal Tech broke rules. ETA: bullshite rules...but rules nonetheless.
What NCAA violation did Penn State commit? Lack of Institutional Control requires NCAA violations.
This post was edited on 7/15/12 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 7/15/12 at 12:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:The first response was the correct answer.
costas is a blow hard
Posted on 7/15/12 at 12:07 pm to OMLandshark
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I doubt the victims want to have anything further to do with this shite, aside from a hefty lawsuit against the university. I sure as hell know I wouldn't want my traumatizing event of getting fricked in the arse to be immortalized in stone.
Not the specific victims, victims of child abuse.
Posted on 7/15/12 at 12:08 pm to Srbtiger06
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and the credibility of the NCAA is at stake as well, particularly after the sanctions they laid on CALTECH of all places because of the way they handle students trying courses out!!!!!
Cal Tech broke rules.
What NCAA violation did Penn State commit? Lack of Institutional Control requires NCAA violations.
there are catchall rules about moral fiber and behavior that have been mentioned in other threads here....will see if i can dig them out
Posted on 7/15/12 at 12:09 pm to Srbtiger06
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Were they enabling it as well?
Yes. Read the Rick Reilly column.
Posted on 7/15/12 at 12:09 pm to Gmorgan4982
Bob Costas is one of the most distinguished sportscasters who ever lived. Whether or not I agree with him on this specific issue, I respect his opinion.
Posted on 7/15/12 at 12:10 pm to Mr. Tom Morrow
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Not the specific victims, victims of child abuse.
I get that, but I would not want my and my associates rapes to be immortalized in stone. I wouldn't be comfortable with that.
Posted on 7/15/12 at 12:12 pm to vl100butch
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there are catchall rules about moral fiber and behavior that have been mentioned in other threads here....will see if i can dig them out
With no clear-cut violation of NCAA rules then it is entirely subjective. IF rules about 'moral fiber' exist then you could certainly hit PSU with them but you're setting a dangerous precedent by governing on morality.
Posted on 7/15/12 at 12:15 pm to TheDoc
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Yes. Read the Rick Reilly column.
Reilly is a moron. I don't believe anyone should ever be put on a pedestal like Paterno was BUT look at what all he did. Until this broke he was viewed as a great guy. He was WAY underpaid, did a ton for the community, and was involved in numerous projects around the university.
In NO way does that excuse him for what happened but who would have ever expected this? Hindsight is 20/20. Everyone got duped but that doesn't mean fans, media, etc. were willingly enabling what happened.
ETA: I re-read this and it still halfway seems like I'm excusing it. I'm not by any means. He's a grade-A POS but until now nobody had any reason to believe he'd be involved in something this heinous.
This post was edited on 7/15/12 at 12:18 pm
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