- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Kobe says This team could beat the Dream team????????????
Posted on 7/12/12 at 12:34 pm to GeauxWarrior12
Posted on 7/12/12 at 12:34 pm to GeauxWarrior12
quote:
Reading comprehension is key. I've stated several times I would take the Dream Team because of the bigs. I've said it 3 times in this thread dude. Actually read before you post bullshite
STFU clown. You're telling me you'd take Paul/Kobe/Lebron/Durant/Chandler over Magic/MJ/Bird/Barkley/Ewing? I'm not even putting the bench players because that's where the '92 team would just be flat out dominant.
This post was edited on 7/12/12 at 12:35 pm
2
Posted on 7/12/12 at 12:38 pm to LSUdm21
No I never said that clown. I said I would take the Dream Team. This is the 4th time I said it. Are u even reading what I post?
Posted on 7/12/12 at 12:45 pm to GeauxWarrior12
No but your whole argument in this thread, leaving the bigs out of it, is that the the 2012 top 3 are better than the 1992 top 3. Isn't that what you're saying? You said MJ couldn't guard Durant, Magic couldn't guard Kobe, and Stockton couldn't guard any of the PGs right?
Posted on 7/12/12 at 12:49 pm to LSUdm21
I 100% agree with that but Stockton and Magic wouldn't play together against the 12 team. My point is that 1-3 the 12 team is slightly better but 4-5 the Dream Team is vastly better. Those teams were loaded with great scorers so a super versatile defender that happens to be a great passer and rebounder as well as a scorer is better for the team that a guy that is a great defender at 1 to 2 positions and a great scorer. The PG for the 12 team are better as well, but the bigs would dominate and for the 5th time I think the Dream Teams wins because of it.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 1:00 pm to GeauxWarrior12
quote:
I 100% agree with that but Stockton and Magic wouldn't play together against the 12 team. My point is that 1-3 the 12 team is slightly better but 4-5 the Dream Team is vastly better. Those teams were loaded with great scorers so a super versatile defender that happens to be a great passer and rebounder as well as a scorer is better for the team that a guy that is a great defender at 1 to 2 positions and a great scorer. The PG for the 12 team are better as well, but the bigs would dominate and for the 5th time I think the Dream Teams wins because of it.
We'll just have to agree to disagree. There isn't enough dope in the world to make me believe Paul/LBJ/Kobe is better than Magic/MJ/Bird.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 1:07 pm to LSUdm21
I agree with you if Magic and Bird were in their prime but they weren't.
This post was edited on 7/12/12 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 7/12/12 at 1:09 pm to GeauxWarrior12
quote:
I agree with you if Magic and Bird were in their prime but they weren't.
Even so they were two tough mofos. I think they could out-will Paul and LBJ. Kobe ain't what he used to be either.
eta: And you only talk about the '92 squad defending the '12 team. How the frick would any PG on this roster stop Magic with his post moves? Kobe is a lazy defender, always has been. Bird needed very little space to get a shot off. LBJ and MJ would be fun as hell to watch but in the end MJ was a MUCH better shot creator.
This post was edited on 7/12/12 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 7/12/12 at 1:16 pm to LSUdm21
D Will would start to guard Magic. LBJ on Jordan. Kobe on Bird. Then they are screwed. Magic and Bird would struggle with these athletes as old as they were. Saying they would "WILL" their way is bullshite.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 1:22 pm to LSUdm21
quote:
There isn't enough dope in the world to make me believe Paul/LBJ/Kobe is better than Magic/MJ/Bird.
Magic/MJ/Bird weren't even the dream team's top three players.
MJ/Barkley and a debatable third were the top three. Barkely was the most dominant player all through the 92 Dream Team's run to anyone who watched.
Nothing against the 2012 Version because they have some great players in Lebron, Durant, Kobe, and Paul... but Kobe is past his peak, Durant has not yet reached his peak, and Paul is under-sized (unless they start Stockton instead of Magic).
The only 2012 player at his peak who would a major problem for the 1992 team is probably Lebron. I would just stick Barkley on Lebron and see what happens... Barkley wouldn't shut him down but he would beat the living hell out of him while he got his points.
If the 92 team started:
Jordan
Magic
Barkley
Pippen
Robinson
I think they would beat
Lebron
Kobe
Durant
Paul
+1
by 8 plus points and probably more
Posted on 7/12/12 at 1:24 pm to GeauxWarrior12
quote:
D Will would start to guard Magic. LBJ on Jordan. Kobe on Bird. Then they are screwed. Magic and Bird would struggle with these athletes as old as they were. Saying they would "WILL" their way is bullshite.
He's giving up 6" and about 30lbs. Magic would dominate him in the post and he would pose no threat at the other end of the court. Also, do you honestly believe LBJ would shut Jordan down? And Kobe today isn't what he was used to be. He's been in the league for 16 years and has had a slew of injuries. Bird and Kobe would actually be a good match up.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 1:29 pm to LSUdm21
LBJ would not shut Jordan down but Magic could not guard Dwill and Dwill could slow him down.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 1:32 pm to GeauxWarrior12
quote:
LBJ would not shut Jordan down but Magic could not guard Dwill and Dwill could slow him down.
I think Magic would score 100 out of 100 on him. Magic could post up a 6'9 F much less a 6'3 PG.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 1:34 pm to LSUdm21
There is a thing called help side defense.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 1:38 pm to GeauxWarrior12
Jesus Christ there are some idiots up in here.
First of all, Bird was not the 3rd best player on that team. After those Olympics, he never played professional organized basketball again. The only player he was better than at that point in time on the roster was Laettner and that was barely so.
Bird was there primarily because it was the first time pros could play, he and Magic helped bring the NBA to unseen popularity, and because they could give him 10-15 minutes a game without risking anything.
The top 3 guys on that roster at the time were Jordan, Malone, and Barkley. If you are going to start comparing teams from top to bottom, then at least get their order right.
Now with that going forward, there is absolutely no way that if you put the DT and the '12 team on the floor at the same time that LeBron is the best player on the court. You have a small argument for 5th, but really, he'd be closer to the 7th best on the court. Some of you are being prisoners of the moment and think that oh just because LeBron won a title while playing to his career averages that he is somehow an all-time great. He's not. Not yet (And probably never will be) so just let that shite go.
Like I said before, the only position on the floor that there is a real comparison is at the 3, but really, in terms of skill, the DT has the advantage. Mullins could shoot from anywhere he wanted at a high percentage, Clyde could take anyone off the dribble and make them his bitch at the rim, and Pippen was/is one of the top 3 perimeter defenders of all time (He was a more skilled LeBron, with slightly less athleticism, but had grown man hairline).
The Dream Team has a clear cut no argument advantage at 4 of the 5 positions on the court. They really don't even have an advantage at the 5th.
This team is nowhere near the same league as the DT. Hell they aren't even the same caliber as the 96 team. I'll give them being better than the '04 team and the '00 team, but they aren't better than the '08 team.
Kobe was right in the sense that they COULD beat the Dream Team, but they were in no way shape or form better than them.
First of all, Bird was not the 3rd best player on that team. After those Olympics, he never played professional organized basketball again. The only player he was better than at that point in time on the roster was Laettner and that was barely so.
Bird was there primarily because it was the first time pros could play, he and Magic helped bring the NBA to unseen popularity, and because they could give him 10-15 minutes a game without risking anything.
The top 3 guys on that roster at the time were Jordan, Malone, and Barkley. If you are going to start comparing teams from top to bottom, then at least get their order right.
Now with that going forward, there is absolutely no way that if you put the DT and the '12 team on the floor at the same time that LeBron is the best player on the court. You have a small argument for 5th, but really, he'd be closer to the 7th best on the court. Some of you are being prisoners of the moment and think that oh just because LeBron won a title while playing to his career averages that he is somehow an all-time great. He's not. Not yet (And probably never will be) so just let that shite go.
Like I said before, the only position on the floor that there is a real comparison is at the 3, but really, in terms of skill, the DT has the advantage. Mullins could shoot from anywhere he wanted at a high percentage, Clyde could take anyone off the dribble and make them his bitch at the rim, and Pippen was/is one of the top 3 perimeter defenders of all time (He was a more skilled LeBron, with slightly less athleticism, but had grown man hairline).
The Dream Team has a clear cut no argument advantage at 4 of the 5 positions on the court. They really don't even have an advantage at the 5th.
This team is nowhere near the same league as the DT. Hell they aren't even the same caliber as the 96 team. I'll give them being better than the '04 team and the '00 team, but they aren't better than the '08 team.
Kobe was right in the sense that they COULD beat the Dream Team, but they were in no way shape or form better than them.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 1:41 pm to GeauxWarrior12
quote:
There is a thing called help side defense.
Then the same thing applies to the other end of the court and the '92 help side trumps that shite.
I'm done here man. I just watched some highlights of the '92 team. It reminded me that Magic and Bird were actually moving around pretty good back than and Drexler would've been a nightmare. They had a lineup against Cuba of Drexler & MJ sharing the point, Malone, Barkley and Robinson. That would be a nightmare for this '12 squad.
This post was edited on 7/12/12 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 7/12/12 at 1:42 pm to Sober Garcia
The 2012 team would run circles around the 1992 team. Heck, the 2008 team would run circles around the 1992 team.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 1:44 pm to theunknownknight
quote:
The 2012 team would run circles around the 1992 team. Heck, the 2008 team would run circles around the 1992 team.
C'mon man. We've moved past dumb shite like this already.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 1:46 pm to LSUdm21
Which is why I said the DT would win, but there is no way in hell LBJ is the 7th best player on the DT. He'd be number 2 at worst. He's done more in his career that Barkley and Malone. Bird and Magic were done. Clyde and Pippen aren't on that level nor are Stockton and Ewing. When we look back on LBJ's career you won't be even comparing him to those guys. He'll be your clear cut number 2. Nobody in their right mind would take anybody but Jordan over him.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 1:47 pm to LSUdm21
quote:
STFU clown. You're telling me you'd take Paul/Kobe/Lebron/Durant/Chandler over Magic/MJ/Bird/Barkley/Ewing? I'm not even putting the bench players because that's where the '92 team would just be flat out dominant.
I now can ignore your opinion can people stop saying Larry bird. I doubt he even starts if this game were to really happen he was out his prime with back problems noway he can defend anyone on the back court. Magic Johnson was old/ and a year out of the league he wouldn't be laterally quick enough to check any player in the back court. Charles Barkley is 6'4 Durant is 6'10-11 with long arse wingspan which means uncontested shots. Concerning the front court you act like 2012's front court are pushovers and random guys on the street it would not be practice layups.
This post was edited on 7/12/12 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 7/12/12 at 1:47 pm to GeauxWarrior12
quote:
Which is why I said the DT would win, but there is no way in hell LBJ is the 7th best player on the DT. He'd be number 2 at worst. He's done more in his career that Barkley and Malone. Bird and Magic were done. Clyde and Pippen aren't on that level nor are Stockton and Ewing. When we look back on LBJ's career you won't be even comparing him to those guys. He'll be your clear cut number 2. Nobody in their right mind would take anybody but Jordan over him.
I'm pretty sure no one said any of that.
Page 6 of 8
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News