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re: Guy stopped in Portland for open carrying
Posted on 6/23/12 at 7:52 pm to highcotton2
Posted on 6/23/12 at 7:52 pm to highcotton2
quote:Not even in the same ballpark as what's being discussed
camera in the dome light
You say you were pulled over for bull shite reasons? Did you actually commit a traffic violation? I just don't get what people have against police officers being proactive.
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Posted on 6/23/12 at 7:54 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
quote:
I just don't get what people have against police officers being proactive.
Your idea of being proactive is hassling innocent people in other people's opinion. I don't blame cops, I blame the fricked up laws they have to enforce and the authority given to them. Cops would have a much more public support if it weren't for the bullshite laws to "keep us safe."
Posted on 6/23/12 at 7:59 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
quote:
camera in the dome light
Not even in the same ballpark as what's being discussed
Randomly check citizens who are not openly commiting a crime. Traffic light cameras. Camera on every street corner. Camera in every car dome light. Yea I say it is in the same ballpark but the park keeps getting smaller and smaller.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 8:02 pm to highcotton2
But the guy wasn't randomly checked. The officer received calls from concerned citizens
Posted on 6/23/12 at 8:17 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
quote:
But the guy wasn't randomly checked. The officer received calls from concerned citizens
Yeah, citizens have become conditioned to call the cops at any slightly perceived threat to their security or sensibilities. Sad world we live in.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 8:21 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Oh don't I know it.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 9:27 pm to Who Me
quote:
I do believe the courts would side with the officer in the incident on the video.
I agree.
In Louisiana, random encounter or response to complaint, LEO can disarm you "for the officer's safety."
Do not make the mistake of thinking you have the option of saying, "no."
Caveat: Officer must return the gun after he has completed his interview. There were several reports on bs.com, from New Orleans area, over the past couple of years, claiming cops kept,(stole) the gun if the owner could not provide proof of purchase.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 9:56 pm to dawg23
Concealed means concealed. That's why I prefer it.
At the same time we need to protect our open carry laws Abusing that will jeopardize it. It's a tricky situation.
Dawg23 knows more about all this than most.
I just wish I could shoot like him.
At the same time we need to protect our open carry laws Abusing that will jeopardize it. It's a tricky situation.
Dawg23 knows more about all this than most.
I just wish I could shoot like him.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 11:31 pm to Who Me
quote:
I do believe the courts would side with the officer in the incident on the video.
As do I.
However, that does not mean that either the actual law or the intent of the law was not broken. It simply means that the state would likely find in favor of the state.
I continue to contend that at no point is another person regardless of their profession allowed to touch you or items on your person when you are legally present and acting legally without your consent. To do so is assault and battery.
That consent may be implied in certain situations like when entering an airport but it certainly was could not in this case as the legal citizen specifically said he did not consent to any search or seizure.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 11:59 pm to Bleeding purple
quote:
That consent may be implied in certain situations like when entering an airport but it certainly was could not in this case as the legal citizen specifically said he did not consent to any search or seizure.
Bingo
The officer should have told him to have a nice day and this video wouldn't have made it this far.
Posted on 6/24/12 at 12:09 am to Nodust
quote:
It would have to be a dumbass felon to open carry a firearm.
No shite. The ones who shouldn't have guns damn sure aren't going to let everyone know they have one if they have any brain cells whatsoever.
Posted on 6/24/12 at 12:15 am to FelicianaTigerfan
quote:
I just don't get what people have against police officers being proactive.
You all know exactly where you NEED to be proactive. Why do I have an ON-DUTY police officer sitting down my street right now watching for people running stop signs at 12:13am? I haven't had a car come down my street in at least half an hour. He should have his arse parked in the middle of Gardere and NBR. I'd rather everyone run that stop sign tonight than wake up to another kid killed in NBR. This whole "we're proactive when we have inspection sticker checkpoints on Jefferson Highway" BS is getting old. You're proactive when you're in the heart of NBR.
Posted on 6/24/12 at 12:46 am to FelicianaTigerfan
quote:
I just don't get what people have against police officers being proactive.
If you are going to be a proactive cop, you better know the law. More important to know what you CANNOT do because doing what you cannot legal justify will get you in real trouble.
Some of you will find this interesting:
Open Carry discussion with Cops
Since it applies here. Both LA and AK LEOs are represented.
This post was edited on 6/24/12 at 12:49 am
Posted on 6/24/12 at 8:04 am to TigersSEC2010
Is your residence located in Gardere's district?
Posted on 6/24/12 at 8:47 am to FelicianaTigerfan
I concur in your comments FelicianaTigerfan. I try to not give anyone a reason to have to stop and check me. I do CC only with a legal permit to do so here in Gumpville. And..... 
Posted on 6/24/12 at 10:09 am to KingRanch
Open carry is a good thing. There are times for it and is nice to have the option. I like it.
Posted on 6/24/12 at 10:18 am to Yewkindewit
I agree with the right to OC, just not the tactics. Concealing your strengths is always better. Two of my favorite quotes from Sun Tzu
In making tactical dispositions, the highest pitch you can attain is to conceal them.
Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent's fate.
- Sun Tzu
In making tactical dispositions, the highest pitch you can attain is to conceal them.
Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent's fate.
- Sun Tzu
Posted on 6/24/12 at 11:09 am to Five0
Sun Tsu
Everyday that does not involve contact with a LEO is a good one. Meaning if I'm talking to a LEO on business, it's bad for me. Either I'm a victim or I'm wrongful in some way. Neither are worth a shite.
Everyday that does not involve contact with a LEO is a good one. Meaning if I'm talking to a LEO on business, it's bad for me. Either I'm a victim or I'm wrongful in some way. Neither are worth a shite.
This post was edited on 6/24/12 at 11:21 am
Posted on 6/24/12 at 12:22 pm to SenseiBuddy
I am the very first person to express my displeasure when police pull people over for no reason, and cannot stand the fact that police offers can use a myriad of bullshite reasons to search/detain folks......
That said, I see no problem with a police officer checking the status of some person walking around with a pistol strapped on their side.
Much the same as its common sense to be pissed at police for randomly pulling folks over for a non legit reason, its also common sense to expect the police to be interested in/follow up on someone walking around with a pistol strapped on, especially when the public is calling about it.
From where I stand, the guy in the video is every much as a douche as police the use bs reasons to search people.
That said, I see no problem with a police officer checking the status of some person walking around with a pistol strapped on their side.
Much the same as its common sense to be pissed at police for randomly pulling folks over for a non legit reason, its also common sense to expect the police to be interested in/follow up on someone walking around with a pistol strapped on, especially when the public is calling about it.
From where I stand, the guy in the video is every much as a douche as police the use bs reasons to search people.
Posted on 6/24/12 at 12:35 pm to TigerTreyjpg
Glad I can call the police to stop and search every person I see walking down the street. There are some trouble looking folks walking down the street every day. I better call the police and have them stop those people just because I called in. 
Officer: I stopped you because someone called in saying there is a man walking down the street looking all Hispanic.
Man: Is that illegal?
Officer: Shut up and empty your pockets and give me your ID.
Officer: I stopped you because someone called in saying there is a man walking down the street looking all Hispanic.
Man: Is that illegal?
Officer: Shut up and empty your pockets and give me your ID.
This post was edited on 6/24/12 at 12:36 pm
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