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re: Realistic Cap Space Discussion (Need help with Numbers)
Posted on 6/21/12 at 10:36 am to Keys Open Doors
Posted on 6/21/12 at 10:36 am to Keys Open Doors
Kaman for 4/$36? :smh:
Depending on who they take at 10, you bring him back for one year at most. Even then I'd rather spend that on Asik.
This salary dump was done to rebuild around EG/Davis and have the chance to be very good 3 years from now. 30 year old, mediocre Kaman for 4/$36 doesn't fit.
Depending on who they take at 10, you bring him back for one year at most. Even then I'd rather spend that on Asik.
This salary dump was done to rebuild around EG/Davis and have the chance to be very good 3 years from now. 30 year old, mediocre Kaman for 4/$36 doesn't fit.
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Posted on 6/21/12 at 10:36 am to OBUDan
Could signing DWill this yr and Howard next possibly happen?
Posted on 6/21/12 at 10:38 am to MinnesotaTiger
They can't offer a max unless they amnesty Jack.
See my post above, but it doesn't make sense to go all in with DWill for a team that will sneak into the playoffs. The trade was made to be good not next year, but the years after.
See my post above, but it doesn't make sense to go all in with DWill for a team that will sneak into the playoffs. The trade was made to be good not next year, but the years after.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 11:33 am to corndeaux
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They can't offer a max unless they amnesty Jack.
Seems to be the case.
Also, and I'm not proposing this is any sort of realistic option... What if you get a call on draft day for Gordon? I mean, if Washington or Cleveland want him? You have to pull that trigger, right?
Posted on 6/21/12 at 11:36 am to OBUDan
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Also, and I'm not proposing this is any sort of realistic option... What if you get a call on draft day for Gordon? I mean, if Washington or Cleveland want him? You have to pull that trigger, right?
Can't happen. Gordon isn't under contract.
The only way a trade happens is after July 1.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 11:38 am to OBUDan
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What if you get a call on draft day for Gordon? I mean, if Washington or Cleveland want him? You have to pull that trigger, right?
What do you mean? Like trading Beal for Gordon in the hopes of being able to sign DWill too? No thanks. DWill has already let it be known that AD wouldn't have been enough to keep him in Jersey. He wants to win now, or at least reasonably soon. He's not waiting on a rebuild.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 11:41 am to teke184
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Can't happen. Gordon isn't under contract.
The only way a trade happens is after July 1.
Ah yeah.. I guess his qualifying offer doesn't go through yet?
Posted on 6/21/12 at 11:43 am to OBUDan
He has to sign the QO, and then only if he doesn't get the offer sheet he wants OR if he wants to be a FA at the end of the season.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 11:54 am to teke184
Yeah, makes sense.
Like I said, still learning.
Like I said, still learning.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 3:00 pm to OBUDan
OBUDan,
You are doing quite well.
You are doing quite well.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 3:43 pm to 42
I need to devote some more time to reading about all the exception rules and all that. But haven't really had the time at work today.
I think my sheets are probably more accurate today than last night.
I hope to keep up with all the transactions and track them.
I think my sheets are probably more accurate today than last night.
I hope to keep up with all the transactions and track them.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 3:45 pm to OBUDan
Posted on 6/21/12 at 3:57 pm to TigerinATL
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Just about the only resource you'll need
Thanks but that left me more confused than what I started thinking
Posted on 6/21/12 at 4:00 pm to corndeaux
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See my post above, but it doesn't make sense to go all in with DWill for a team that will sneak into the playoffs. The trade was made to be good not next year, but the years after.
Sure it does, since we can be pretty good this year while our picks develop, then great next season when they're experienced. We'd still have a good bit of money to spend next season and our corps players would have experience together. Plus, if you put off getting DWill this year to have a shite ton of space next season, then don't get any premiere FAs to come here in 2013, you're kind of fricked.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 4:05 pm to corndeaux
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They can't offer a max unless they amnesty Jack.
Is Jack eligible to be traded on draft night? For example, Boston wants to get rid of 1 of their first rounders for a proven vet. Is Jack worth that? Would we have to send some cash or a future pick?
And if we do trade Jack for a pick, that clears him from the books, correct?
Posted on 6/21/12 at 4:05 pm to THRILLHO
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Plus, if you put off getting DWill this year to have a shite ton of space next season, then don't get any premiere FAs to come here in 2013, you're kind of fricked.
And you're kind of fricked if you throw all your money at DWill, bank on Gordon being healthy and have to rely on young role players to win.
There's good and bad to both scenarios IMO.
I think the DWILL issue is less about money and more about the fact that he's just likely not coming here.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 4:08 pm to mark65mc
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Is Jack eligible to be traded on draft night?
Sure. He's under contract, so we can trade him.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 4:08 pm to mark65mc
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Is Jack eligible to be traded on draft night?
Yes
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Boston wants to get rid of 1 of their first rounders for a proven vet. Is Jack worth that?
Yes maybe even both of the picks
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Would we have to send some cash or a future pick?
No we could send 3 mil and Jack for both I think
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And if we do trade Jack for a pick, that clears him from the books, correct?
Yes
Posted on 6/21/12 at 4:11 pm to mark65mc
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Is Jack eligible to be traded on draft night?
Yeah, he can be traded, and Boston is a good bit under the cap so they can take JJ without sending anything back. No way they do that, though, given that they're almost certainly going into full blown rebuild mode.
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And if we do trade Jack for a pick, that clears him from the books, correct?
Yes. Again, the team taking Jack can't have his contract put them over the cap if a straight pick for JJ trade were to happen. If it does put them over the cap, they need to send salary back (which would kind of defeat the purpose for us if we're trying to clear space for DWill) or they could use a trade exception if they have one to pair with the pick.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 4:12 pm to aswemajor
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Is Jack eligible to be traded on draft night?
Yes
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Boston wants to get rid of 1 of their first rounders for a proven vet. Is Jack worth that?
Yes maybe even both of the picks
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Would we have to send some cash or a future pick?
No we could send 3 mil and Jack for both I think
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And if we do trade Jack for a pick, that clears him from the books, correct?
Yes
Get it done Dell!
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