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2011 Heat vs 2012 Heat

Posted on 6/20/12 at 8:37 am
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 8:37 am
Which is better? Last night one of the analysts was saying last year's Heat team was better. IMO the addition of Battier made this team better. I honestly think this series would probably be tied or in the Thunder's favor without him. He has been the glue guy they brought him in for this finals.
This post was edited on 6/20/12 at 8:44 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 8:39 am to
2012

battier has been a great depth addition

chalmers has improved

james jones is healthier

norris cole sometimes does some great stuff

last year they simply didn't have the depth
Posted by slutiger5
Parroquias de Florida
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 8:40 am to
Battier is the man, true team player. However, i believe last years team was much better. Lebron is playing much better as general but i thought there was more talent last year.
Posted by jackson123
Dallas
Member since Jul 2010
1550 posts
Posted on 6/20/12 at 8:41 am to
Battier. 2012
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 8:45 am to
2013 with Nash
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
30108 posts
Posted on 6/20/12 at 8:46 am to
quote:

However, i believe last years team was much better. Lebron is playing much better as general but i thought there was more talent last year.


What talent are we talking about here? Who did they lose that was so talented? Wade hasn't regressed as much as the Chalmers improvement and Battier addition have given them. I still believe Wade could carry them if he absolutely had to.
Posted by shifty94
San Antonio, TX
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 8:54 am to
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2013 with Nash


the correct answer
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
30108 posts
Posted on 6/20/12 at 9:06 am to
2013 probably will be the Peak of whatever the Heat are going to do with the LBJ/Wade dynasty. I'd imagine they add a couple of pieces like they did with Battier last year that will help.


ETA: I will say that at his age, I don't know that Nash will be a huge impact considering Miami usually runs a half court offense. We already know he will be a defensive liability. Of coarse he is a take if we can get him though.
This post was edited on 6/20/12 at 9:08 am
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19353 posts
Posted on 6/20/12 at 9:08 am to
Battier played like absolute crap all year up until the finals so up until now I would of said 2011.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 9:08 am to
quote:

2013 with Nash


Not fair if this happens.
Posted by longhorn22
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 9:08 am to
lebron actually drives to goal
Posted by Rittdog
Yesterday, all my troubles seemed
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 9:10 am to
Joel Anthony and Mike Bibby were starting on that 2011 team.

They have huge upgrades now at that position (well..moving Bosh to Center, LeBron to PF)

If the Heat had Battier....and Chalmers was the starter last year....Might have won last year.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10087 posts
Posted on 6/20/12 at 9:18 am to
As for this answer, 2012. Lebron is playing better, Battier is a great addition, Chalmers is nothing special, put playing much better in some key moments than Bibby ever thought of doing. Team has had time to gel and look to be feeding off each other rather than just trying to get out of each others way.
This post was edited on 6/20/12 at 9:19 am
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
30108 posts
Posted on 6/20/12 at 9:19 am to
quote:

Battier played like absolute crap all year up until the finals so up until now I would of said 2011.


He has had a bad year scoring. But, the Heat didn't sign him for that. He has been doing everything they have asked of him this year. Hell, he doesn't even start a lot of games. But, the Heat really needed a guy that will take charges, go after loose balls, take pressure off of Lebron defensively, sacrifice themselves for the team. That kind of play is contagious and you see the other Heat players doing it more as a result. The fact that he is having a nice finals is just an added benefit.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
30108 posts
Posted on 6/20/12 at 9:21 am to
Yeah, the fact that Anthony started last year and he is hardly seeing the floor this season speaks to how much better this team is.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
30108 posts
Posted on 6/20/12 at 9:22 am to
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lebron actually drives to goal


He has always done this. His post up game has sucked in the past, but "freight train to the lane" is from his Cleveland days.
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