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Your logic is perfect. In a world where Conferences are competitive with each other.

If your point is that a given non conference champ may be arguably "better" than another's conference champ, I agree. But surely the former is not better than their conference champ, or they would've won their conference. Thus the former would not deserve to go to the NC over their conference champ.






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Alahunter
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Your logic is perfect. In a world where Conferences are competitive with each other.



If your point is that a given non conference champ may be arguably "better" than another's conference champ, I agree. But surely the former is not better than their conference champ, or they would've won their conference. Thus the former would not deserve to go to the NC over their conference champ


Think about this. The year before, Bama, who was 3rd in the West, beat the Big Ten champ 49-7 in their bowl game. This is why conf champs shouldn't be the only criteria. Not all conferences are equal.






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Thunder Tiger
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Think about this. The year before, Bama, who was 3rd in the West, beat the Big Ten champ 49-7 in their bowl game. This is why conf champs shouldn't be the only criteria. Not all conferences are equal.

Understood. But at the end of last year's regular season, Bama was not the best in their conference (or divison), because LSU beat them at home and LSU won the SEC title game. However better Bama may have arguably been than another's conference champ, IMO they should not have been given the chance to upstage the team that had already beaten them and was crowned SEC champs. This point has less to do with comparing other conference champs as it has to do with fairness within the division.

Secondly, just because Bama won that game, or the 1/9 game, doesn't prove Bama deserved the chance to play for the NC last year. Given the chance, any dog can have his day, and then they can retroactively claim their victory justifies the chance.

And back to my point I've made to several people in several threads without resonse: If Bama was so obviously more deserving, why did the computers (which compared strength of schedules, records vs. ranked teams, etc. ) favor Okie? Why did some human voters vote Okie as low as 6th?






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And back to my point I've made to several people in several threads without resonse: If Bama was so obviously more deserving, why did the computers (which compared strength of schedules, records vs. ranked teams, etc. ) favor Okie?


Because rankings were putting a 4 loss Texas team in the top 25 and keeping other Big 12 teams in the top 25, despite the fact, over half that conference had defenses ranked in the 100's in defensive categories.






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Thunder Tiger
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Because rankings were putting a 4 loss Texas team in the top 25 and keeping other Big 12 teams in the top 25, despite the fact, over half that conference had defenses ranked in the 100's in defensive categories.


Well, IMO the computers (3 of 5 IIRC) compared far more objecive accomplishments than did the human voters. According to the computers, at the end of the regular season, Okie had a stronger SOS, beat more then-currently ranked teams, and won their conference after thumping former #1 OU. Yet Okie deserved to be voted 4th (by Saban) and 6th by other human voters?

IMO, at best the objective comparison was a push, and Bama should've been excluded since they failed to win their conference, and didn't deserve the chance to top the team that did.






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BamaGradinTn
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YOU'RE also too fricking stupid to see that this is being used as motivation for next year.


Great motivational tool for the graduating seniors. Motivate them for what?

You're a real m-fing genius.






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BamaGradinTn
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It does. Last season was historical in many ways. If this was a different era of CFB, LSU would have been National Champs without having to worry about the unprecedented Mulligan Bama got.


See, it's stupidity like this that keeps anyone from taking you seriously. Bama got a "mulligan", yet if Okie Lite had been in the big game, that wouldn't have been a "mulligan" for an even worse loss? Yeah, that makes a helluva lot of sense. Only in your warped mind.

Alabama and LSU were the two best teams in the country. All the game in Tuscaloosa ultimately determined, other than the SEC West championship, was what order to rank them in going into the BCSCG.






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BamaGradinTn
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I completely disagree with the fact that conference champions should be the only ones to play for the title.

To each his own. IMO, if every game counts then conference championships should really count, and a non-champ conference member should not be allowed to claim a bigger prize than their conference champ.


I imagine that Tony Larussa and Albert Pujols would disagree. God...what an idiotic statement.

Yeah, every game counts. Including Okie State-Iowa State.






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Bayoufightingtiger
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Runner up sounds lil better





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BamaGradinTn
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Every regular season game does matter though.

If the "Game of the Century" at their house really mattered we should not have had to play them again, even if we'd won by only 1 point.


Jesus efifng christ. The game in Tuscaloosa did matter. The problem with your utterly failed logic is that you didn't want OSU-ISU to matter.

Your premise is completely illogical. Wild cards have often won championships at the expense of division champs over the years, including last year.

Here's the bottom line: The only reason you don't like it is because LSU got their asses kicked and you're just a homer. There's no logic to your position beyond that. You don't like it, because you don't like it. That's it.

"Allowing" Bama to win the NC? That's pure comedy there!



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How far we've come. I remember reading Athlons and Lindys top 25's in the early 90's, and being erect over seeing us listed in "others to watch".





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Thunder Tiger
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I imagine that Tony Larussa and Albert Pujols would disagree. God...what an idiotic statement.

Yep, professional baseball playoffs are exactly the same as human voters deciding who'll play in the college football NC. You, sir, are the frickin' moron.






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Thunder Tiger
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You don't like it, because you don't like it. That's it.

Well, this is a frickin' brilliant argument if I've ever seen one.
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Your premise is completely illogical. Wild cards have often won championships at the expense of division champs over the years, including last year.

Yep, again, professional playoffs are exactly the same as the college BCS system. Talk about pure comedy.






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higgins
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I know that 99% of Bammers would've felt the same way if the shoe were on the other foot. No way in hell ESPN would've lobbied that hard for us. Imagine a season where #2 Bama were to beat #1 Auburn @ Jordan-Hare. Then, a rematch in the BCS championship. You would hear, "THIS AIN'T FER ! WE BEAT EM AT THAR PLACE! THEY DON'T DESERVE NO REMATCH!" Hats off. Y'all won the game, but he fact that y'all got a second shot IS the reason there was so much urgency to reevaluate the system with the Florida meetings. The rematch totally diminished conference play/performance. Hell, why win the SEC & be penalized by playing an extra game against a quality opponent? Risk injury? Risk a loss? Just lose close and stay home to practice and rest.





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All the game in Tuscaloosa ultimately determined, other than the SEC West championship, was what order to rank them in going into the BCSCG.
Yep, shouldn't let the SEC West and overall SEC winner stand in the way of a good do-over, huh?

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yet if Okie Lite had been in the big game, that wouldn't have been a "mulligan" for an even worse loss?

No, we didn't play Okie before, so it wouldn't have been a "mulligan." Do you even know what a mulligan is, you frickin' redneck moron?






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Great motivational tool for the graduating seniors. Motivate them for what? You're a real m-fing genius.


I also happen to have first-hand knowledge on how matters such as these work.

So, yeah, go frick yourself Mulliganite.






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See, it's stupidity like this that keeps anyone from taking you seriously.


So if this was an era such as the 70's, where entitled programs such as Bama claimed titles before bowl games, you are telling me that this statement by me is wrong?

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does. Last season was historical in many ways. If this was a different era of CFB, LSU would have been National Champs without having to worry about the unprecedented Mulligan Bama got.


That statement is not wrong.

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Bama got a "mulligan", yet if Okie Lite had been in the big game, that wouldn't have been a "mulligan" for an even worse loss


Oh yes. I forget. "Quality Loss" is now part of the lexicon of CFB thanks to entitled Bama.

OSU actually won their division. OSU actually won their conference. You didn't. You sat on your arse while both LSU and OSU were EARNING major conference titles.

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Yeah, that makes a helluva lot of sense. Only in your warped mind.


Believe me, I'm not the only CFB fan who realizes this. Again, as I stated to Bama fans earlier, I don't expect you to see this point of view when your school is one of the entitled programs in CFB.

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All the game in Tuscaloosa ultimately determined, other than the SEC West championship, was what order to rank them in going into the BCSCG.


This statement is so funny in so many ways.

You want to know why? Because Bama literally rode LSU's coattails into NOLA. I know, I know. The truth hurts.

You think if LSU hadn't beaten Oregon, WVU and leveled the rest of their schedule that you would have gotten that mulligan? Face it, the only reason you got the Mulligan was because you were the only team that played LSU close last season AND because of your program's history compared to OSU. LSU did all the dirty work for you. LSU, by virtue of their OOC schedule, eliminated the Pac 12 Champ and the Big East Champ while you were playing Ga. Souther and N. Texas. While you sat at home BEGGING for a second chance, LSU was kicking UGAs arse in their back yard for the Conference Championship. Face it gump, if LSU doesn't have the season it had in 2011, your loss at home in "The Game Of The Century That Didn't Count" wouldn't get as much play. Your entire season in 2011 was put on a pedestal by the media simply because you had a "quality loss" to a team that dominated a historical schedule.

Instead of thanking LSU for the season it had so you could be handed a Mulligan, you Bama shitheads come here and try and justify the fact that you had the weakest resume in BCSNCG history.

You won your unprecedented Mulligan. More power to you. Those of us who are not just LSU fans, but CFB fans are worried what this type of stupidity will ultimately do to the sport now that the entitled teams no longer have to EARN their way into a championship game.



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yet if Okie Lite had been in the big game, that wouldn't have been a "mulligan" for an even worse loss? No, we didn't play Okie before, so it wouldn't have been a "mulligan." Do you even know what a mulligan is, you frickin' redneck moron?


I thought about commenting on this as well, but I just realized I typed a long response to a fricking idiot. I guess that makes me one as well.






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YellowHammer59
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This is some FUNNY SHIT!





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