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re: Trade the #10 for Brandon Jennings?

Posted on 6/7/12 at 9:53 am to
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34437 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 9:53 am to
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But that doesn't mean other teams will be without deals that they still want to get rid of, that we can acquire and then use the amnesty on.

Teams without an amnesty exemption left, AND a huge contract on their books, would love to include picks in a trade with the Hornets.

An example: Washington Wizards used their amnesty exemption on Gilbert Arenas.

Their contract for Andray Blatche, who is not working out for them, is roughly the same as Ariza's this year... but Blatche's runs through 2015.

The Wizards could send Blatche, and PICKS, to the Hornets for Ariza, and Blatche could then be amnestied by the Hornets.


Pretty much everything here is incorrect. You cannot amnesty a player unless they were under contract to YOUR team before and during the lockout.
Posted by WB504
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
5874 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 9:56 am to
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An example: Washington Wizards used their amnesty exemption on Gilbert Arenas.

Orlando amnestied Arenas so Wizards still have their amnesty

quote:

The Wizards could send Blatche, and PICKS, to the Hornets for Ariza, and Blatche could then be amnestied by the Hornets.

You can't trade for a player then amnesty him.
Posted by patendedgmf
BR
Member since Jun 2006
1443 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 10:10 am to
Yeh - I whiffed on that
Read a BAD thread on amnesty.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34437 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 10:12 am to
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Yeh - I whiffed on that
Read a BAD thread on amnesty.


No worries. You live and you learn.

Posted by WB504
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
5874 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 1:15 pm to
Looks like this might have some legs.

From Sam Amico's Twitter
quote:

And yes, sounds like Hornets are willing to move their 10th pick. But you'd better give them a starting-caliber point guard in return.

LINK
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116328 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 1:20 pm to
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And yes, sounds like Hornets are willing to move their 10th pick. But you'd better give them a starting-caliber point guard in return.




What is the definition of "starting caliber"?

Collison isn't my definition of starting caliber. Jennings is.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61598 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 1:26 pm to
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What is the definition of "starting caliber"?


I would think Indy has no interest in either Ariza or Okafor. I'd say Jennings/Lowry/Dragic S&T are the obvious targets.
Posted by MinnesotaTiger
Anthony Davis puts it up... BANNNG!
Member since May 2008
4596 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 1:27 pm to
It's crazy that the Hornets don't view Jack as a suitable 1 until AD is ready to help lead us to an WCF or something.

I'd suspect that they have a player of Jennings' caliber in mind as well bc Collison was literally invisible on the court in the playoffs.
This post was edited on 6/7/12 at 1:28 pm
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61598 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 1:31 pm to
I just played around in the trade machine and don't see how we send Okafor to Milwaukee for Jennings without taking back a terrible contract. I doubt Milwaukee wants Ariza because they just signed Mbah a Moute long term. Houston can do Lowry and Dalembert if they view Okafor and #10 as enough value.
This post was edited on 6/7/12 at 1:32 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116328 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 1:36 pm to
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I just played around in the trade machine and don't see how we send Okafor to Milwaukee for Jennings without taking back a terrible contract. I doubt Milwaukee wants Ariza because they just signed Mbah a Moute long term. Houston can do Lowry and Dalembert if they view Okafor and #10 as enough value.


I think you are confusing two rumors.

Amico is saying that the Hornets would trade the 10 for a starting PG. He never mentions requiring Ariza or Okafor to be with it like Powell did.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96547 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

And yes, sounds like Hornets are willing to move their 10th pick. But you'd better give them a starting-caliber point guard in return.



Sounds like we're jockeying for Kyle Lowry from Houston (14,16 picks) or Lou Williams from Philly (15th pick).

I don't see many other starting-quality points available, let alone ones worth flipping the 10th pick.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61598 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

I think you are confusing two rumors.


Thanks.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34437 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

Sounds like we're jockeying for Kyle Lowry from Houston (14,16 picks) or Lou Williams from Philly (15th pick).


Big meh
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49528 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 4:02 pm to
quote:

What is the definition of "starting caliber"?


Jarett Jack.
Posted by saintstigasbees504
Member since May 2012
14 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 4:05 pm to
so we have lowery and jennings..... is there anyone else we could possibly make a trade for?
Posted by Jizzamo311
Member since Dec 2008
6344 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 4:07 pm to
If we are looking to aquire a starting PG, one would assume we aren't looking to go after Dragic
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96547 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 4:28 pm to
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so we have lowery and jennings..... is there anyone else we could possibly make a trade for?



It really depends on how badly you stretch the term "starting point guard".

There's Jrue Holiday, Devin Harris, Rodney Stuckey, Darren Collison, Mario Chalmers, Jameer Nelson, and Jose Calderon.

Lowery and Jennings are better than most, if not all, of these guys.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96547 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

If we are looking to aquire a starting PG, one would assume we aren't looking to go after Dragic



We can't make a play for Dragic until after July 1.

If we get a starting point before then, we don't need to go after him. If we miss out, we can still make an offer.
Posted by DeionDeion
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2010
6110 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

star caliber


how bout this Deron Williams guy?

basically trade Damian Lillard to the Nets straight up for DWill



















i know i know don't ruin this moment for me
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278942 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 9:03 pm to
lou williams is not a pg
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