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Irrevocable Life Insurance Trusts & Intentionally Defective Grantor Trusts
Posted on 6/6/12 at 7:37 am
Posted on 6/6/12 at 7:37 am
Does anyone know of any good literature dealing with these two topics? I am looking into whether a ILIT can be a IDGT. Thanks in advance.
Posted on 6/6/12 at 12:21 pm to krehn11
If you have access to the underwriting comapny for the ILIT, call th H.O. and speak to their advanced sales consultants. They are typically estate planning and tax attorneys who work solely with these issues. I understand you may be in the same field, but utilizing their expertise will likely save you time and $.
Posted on 6/8/12 at 8:06 am to Poodlebrain
Thanks - the situation I am researching is an interesting situation.
IRC 677(a)(3) states that the grantor will be treated as taxed on the income used to produce the premiums, so long as the person holding the power to direct such premium payments is the grantor or a non-adverse party (such as the trustee). However, in this situation, the trustee (who hold such power) is the beneficiary of the trust, which would make him/her an adverse party ---> the ILIT is not a IDGT through this power.
Do you agree with this conclusion?
IRC 677(a)(3) states that the grantor will be treated as taxed on the income used to produce the premiums, so long as the person holding the power to direct such premium payments is the grantor or a non-adverse party (such as the trustee). However, in this situation, the trustee (who hold such power) is the beneficiary of the trust, which would make him/her an adverse party ---> the ILIT is not a IDGT through this power.
Do you agree with this conclusion?
Posted on 6/8/12 at 10:40 pm to krehn11
My understanding is that being an adverse party trumps being non-adverse, so it seems the trust would not be treated as a grantor trust to the trustor. The trustee however appears to be the person who would be treated as the grantor for income tax purposes. In effect the original trustor made a gift in trust for the benefit of the trustee. Given his power to determine the use of the trust income as well as the benefits therof, it seems only fair to treat the trustee as the grantor (or owner) of the trust for income tax purposes.
Posted on 6/11/12 at 10:28 am to Poodlebrain
I've never heard of that before.......
Posted on 6/11/12 at 11:29 am to krehn11
Glad you learned something.
I try to understand PB's posts and it always teaches me something I didn't know, but then there is soo much I don't.
I try to understand PB's posts and it always teaches me something I didn't know, but then there is soo much I don't.
Posted on 6/11/12 at 1:56 pm to krehn11
Think of it as Crummey, or 5x5, power over the whole trust. The beneficiary is treated as the grantor to the extent of either power. In your case the power appears to cover the entire trust corpus and income, so the beneficiary, who is the trustee in your case, is treated as the grantor.
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