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re: Brees isn't an elite QB -- Fox Sports
Posted on 5/25/12 at 8:59 am to MinnesotaTiger
Posted on 5/25/12 at 8:59 am to MinnesotaTiger
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Rodgers is def better than Brees.
Brees has been putting up better numbers for longer.
Rodgers is good but some people talk about him like he is heads and shoulders better than Brees.
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Posted on 5/25/12 at 9:02 am to JasonL79
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Rodgers is good but some people talk about him like he is heads and shoulders better than Brees.
Given his age, what he has accomplished, and his physical tools, it isn't a forgone conclusion that he isn't better. Rodgers is a bad man and will be for years to come. But today, I'll take Brees for my Saints, of course.
Posted on 5/25/12 at 9:03 am to LSUFreek
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Drew Brees not only played in another system, but excelled in it by going to the Pro Bowl with San Diego.
And it wasnt just any system he previously played in, he played FN Marty ball and had success
Posted on 5/25/12 at 9:07 am to Patrick O Rly
Are you sure he was out for that game. I thought him and brown played
Posted on 5/25/12 at 9:08 am to CM84
I do think Rodgers, Eli, Big Ben, and Brady could play in any system. I also believe Brees would be equally effective in any system as well. I don't think the writer has a valid argument, as show by the posters here who have shot holes in it.
Posted on 5/25/12 at 9:08 am to TigerBait1127
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I thought him and brown played
Brown surely played. I remember him getting beat badly. As for Olin...I can't remember.
Posted on 5/25/12 at 9:11 am to TigerBait1127
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Brees isn't an elite QB
^ That about sums it up.
Posted on 5/25/12 at 9:17 am to SaintEB
Yeah Brown played, got injured and tried to play through it. They eventually yanked him, but it was too little too late. Olin's last game was at Tampa, his first game back from injury. The week after that was the Colts massacre, and then it was the Rams game. After that, our line was set for the rest of the year, and we won the rest of our games.
This post was edited on 5/25/12 at 9:18 am
Posted on 5/25/12 at 9:19 am to Patrick O Rly
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we won the rest of our games
Well....except the one
Posted on 5/25/12 at 9:21 am to TigerBait1127
And what "system" did he play in San Diego?
Stick figures drawn in the dirt on the sideline with your big toe ????
Stick figures drawn in the dirt on the sideline with your big toe ????
Posted on 5/25/12 at 9:23 am to MetryTyger
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And what "system" did he play in San Diego?
Any other system than Sean Payton's, which is their point. He was very good outside of his time with Coach Payton.
Posted on 5/25/12 at 9:23 am to SaintEB
I'm talking bout' regular season :O GOSH!!!!!!
Posted on 5/25/12 at 10:19 am to RaginCajunsULL
didn't Flynn step into that Green Bay system and put up the most passing tds or yards in a game...
EVER..
didn't matt cassell step into that new england system and take the patriots to an 11 win season and to the playoffs?
brees took a 2 win franchise coming off a shoulder injury to the NFC championship in his very first season.. and has broken and set several offensive statistics all along the way.. maintaining the number 1 offense nearly every single season.
EVER..
didn't matt cassell step into that new england system and take the patriots to an 11 win season and to the playoffs?
brees took a 2 win franchise coming off a shoulder injury to the NFC championship in his very first season.. and has broken and set several offensive statistics all along the way.. maintaining the number 1 offense nearly every single season.
Posted on 5/25/12 at 10:32 am to beauchristopher
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didn't Flynn step into that Green Bay system and put up the most passing tds or yards in a game...
EVER..
didn't matt cassell step into that new england system and take the patriots to an 11 win season and to the playoffs?
This is crucial. CSP system puts a tremendous amount of decisions on Drew's shoulders, and also puts a premium on accuracy. That's why Drew has had continued success despite the fact that each of his receivers in the last 4 years has missed extended time with injury. All else being equal, if you put the ball in the right place, anybody can catch it.
Posted on 5/25/12 at 10:43 am to elprez00
The writer is clinging to old notions of quarterbacks needing to be tall.
These kinds of guys just can't accept that shorter quarterbacks can be just as good.
These kinds of guys just can't accept that shorter quarterbacks can be just as good.
Posted on 5/25/12 at 11:04 am to MetryTyger
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And what "system" did he play in San Diego?
Stick figures drawn in the dirt on the sideline with your big toe ????
was Payton the coach in SD? The writer stated that he needs Payton to be successful
Posted on 5/25/12 at 11:06 am to beauchristopher
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take the patriots to an 11 win season and to the playoffs?
11 wins, yes, but no playoffs. Crazy year when that didn't get them in.
Posted on 5/25/12 at 11:30 am to TigerBait1127
dibs on sig quote material 
Posted on 5/25/12 at 11:42 am to TigerBait1127
I just found out this guy has one of the 44 hall of fame votes
Posted on 5/25/12 at 1:02 pm to jacks40
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If starting a team right now I'd take Rodgers over Brees just based on age, but talent-wise right now...I'm not sure there is that much difference btw the 2.
Rodgers is a much safer choice, even if they were the same age. He's more accurate, but he doesn't have the same weapons Brees has. YES, Aaron has a lot of good WRs and a good TE, but Drew had a bunch of good WRs, a decent/good TE, and a good WR out of the back field. Small advantage to Brees' help.
Drew throws more picks, I've covered why he has a higher completion %, and Drew has more yards, but yardage isn't really an indicator of who is the better QB.
Current NFL QBs (IMO) :
1) Tom Brady
1b) Aaron Rodgers
2) Peyton Manning (he won't drop off much, but a small drop off that isn't going to be very noticable.)
3) Drew Brees
4) Phillip Rivers
5) Matthew Stafford
6) Joe Flaaco
7) Cam Newton
8) Michael Vick
9) Jay Cutler
10) Matt Schaub
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