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ASOIAF book readers only, Winds of Winter predictions
Posted on 5/23/12 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 5/23/12 at 2:20 pm
mine:
1. Stannis has some sort or trap laid out for the Boltons & Freys...the pink letter just doesn't make sense considering he put the potential Karstark threat away. I think he takes back Winterfell & Davos returns with Rickon and gives the north some stability just for a little bit until the Others overwhelm the wall and invade. The battle for winterfell will end up looking irrelevant by the end of the book.
2. Aegon takes the Iron Throne, and swiflty. We know from Arianne's chapter in TWOW that Storm's end has fallen in a real bloody fashion. This will win him a.) Dorne and B.) Randyll Tarly and other Lords from the reach. In the epilogue we see Tarly down playing the threat of Aegon...which doesn't make much sense in the grand scheme of things. it does if you realize that Tarly just got passed over for land & title in the reach and he was one of the last loyal Targaryen bannermen.
Tarly will obliterate the Tyrell and Hightower resistance in the reach and the Sand Snake in King's Landing will convince a bat shite crazy & desperate Cersei that the incoming Dornish army is here to help. Kind of reminds me of something that happened during the 1st rebellion.
Now, like the North, I don't see stablity happening here long.
3. Dany finally gets to Westeros with the largest army around...The Iron Fleet will make short work of the ships in the siege of Mereen and Ser Barristan and the Tyrion led sellswords will finish off the land threat. She'll then take Drogon, the Iron Fleet, her unsullied, the Dothraki she takes from Khal Pono, and sellswords to head to Westeros. There she will try to unseat Aegon.
4. Dany's betrayal of love will be Ser Barristan for Ashara Dayne. That leads me to believe it will be Dany vs. Aegon.
5. Jon willl be reborn as Azor Ahai, Stannnis bends the knee to him, and both will head to face the Others.
6. Jamie gets to KL in time to get Tommen safetly out, and in the process has to kill Cersei as she won't leave or let Jamie take him.
1. Stannis has some sort or trap laid out for the Boltons & Freys...the pink letter just doesn't make sense considering he put the potential Karstark threat away. I think he takes back Winterfell & Davos returns with Rickon and gives the north some stability just for a little bit until the Others overwhelm the wall and invade. The battle for winterfell will end up looking irrelevant by the end of the book.
2. Aegon takes the Iron Throne, and swiflty. We know from Arianne's chapter in TWOW that Storm's end has fallen in a real bloody fashion. This will win him a.) Dorne and B.) Randyll Tarly and other Lords from the reach. In the epilogue we see Tarly down playing the threat of Aegon...which doesn't make much sense in the grand scheme of things. it does if you realize that Tarly just got passed over for land & title in the reach and he was one of the last loyal Targaryen bannermen.
Tarly will obliterate the Tyrell and Hightower resistance in the reach and the Sand Snake in King's Landing will convince a bat shite crazy & desperate Cersei that the incoming Dornish army is here to help. Kind of reminds me of something that happened during the 1st rebellion.
Now, like the North, I don't see stablity happening here long.
3. Dany finally gets to Westeros with the largest army around...The Iron Fleet will make short work of the ships in the siege of Mereen and Ser Barristan and the Tyrion led sellswords will finish off the land threat. She'll then take Drogon, the Iron Fleet, her unsullied, the Dothraki she takes from Khal Pono, and sellswords to head to Westeros. There she will try to unseat Aegon.
4. Dany's betrayal of love will be Ser Barristan for Ashara Dayne. That leads me to believe it will be Dany vs. Aegon.
5. Jon willl be reborn as Azor Ahai, Stannnis bends the knee to him, and both will head to face the Others.
6. Jamie gets to KL in time to get Tommen safetly out, and in the process has to kill Cersei as she won't leave or let Jamie take him.
This post was edited on 5/23/12 at 2:22 pm
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Posted on 5/23/12 at 2:28 pm to NIH
Something's gonna happen with Sansa and Littlefinger going back to the north. That's all I got.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 2:29 pm to NIH
not bad...it would be nice if it played out like that but you know GRRM is gonna kill off half the people you mentioned 
Posted on 5/23/12 at 2:53 pm to NIH
Arya gonna F some shyte up!!!
Posted on 5/23/12 at 3:34 pm to NIH
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Jamie gets to KL in time to get Tommen safetly out, and in the process has to kill Cersei as she won't leave or let Jamie take him.
What about zombie Stark and Brienne?
Posted on 5/23/12 at 3:55 pm to NIH
I predict we're still going to be waiting a long time for Martin to write it.
Other than that: Based on the old lady's prophecy, Tommen and Mycella are killed (I think I'm remembering right that Mycella has just been injured/scarred so far).
Jon will survive by being warged into his wolf some sort of way - Mellisandre may have a part.
Danny will likely still muck about over the seas for most of the book. Though with Tyrion and Victorian there it might be a little more interesting than it has in he past.
Aegon will end up not being Aegon (though he himself thinks he is).
Zombie Kat will continue to make exactly the wrong choices as Kat has done since the beginning.
Not sure exactly how the whole Stannis / Ramsey / Theon stuff will play out. Hopefully Theon will be put out of his misery. (or maybe he kills Ramsey in some sort of deception/trick.
I think the Citadel or members of it may have some part to play before the end.
Other than that: Based on the old lady's prophecy, Tommen and Mycella are killed (I think I'm remembering right that Mycella has just been injured/scarred so far).
Jon will survive by being warged into his wolf some sort of way - Mellisandre may have a part.
Danny will likely still muck about over the seas for most of the book. Though with Tyrion and Victorian there it might be a little more interesting than it has in he past.
Aegon will end up not being Aegon (though he himself thinks he is).
Zombie Kat will continue to make exactly the wrong choices as Kat has done since the beginning.
Not sure exactly how the whole Stannis / Ramsey / Theon stuff will play out. Hopefully Theon will be put out of his misery. (or maybe he kills Ramsey in some sort of deception/trick.
I think the Citadel or members of it may have some part to play before the end.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 4:25 pm to NIH
quote:
1. Stannis has some sort or trap laid out for the Boltons & Freys...the pink letter just doesn't make sense considering he put the potential Karstark threat away. I think he takes back Winterfell & Davos returns with Rickon and gives the north some stability just for a little bit until the Others overwhelm the wall and invade. The battle for winterfell will end up looking irrelevant by the end of the book.
Given the sample chapter from WOW I think it's a given he has some sort of trap to take out Bolton's forces. I'm not sure the north gets stability though, I can see the confusion following Jon's killing causing the wall to fall and allow the others through. The wildlings vastly outnumber the black crows now since Jon let them all through, I don't see Tormund and the rest just sitting idly by when Jon gets ganked. I think it gets very messy up there.
I see Stannis bringing Theon to the godswood to behead him in front of the northmen, and then Bran speaks through the heartstree and proves he and Rickon are alive and Theon didn't kill them. Then Stannis is able to ransom/pardon Theona nd Asha takes him back home to do another kingsmoot and try and unseat Euron, perhaps with their uncle the priests help.
I think Dany will have to defeat Aegon for sure, he is the mummer's dragon after all, and possibly she'll need to take out Stannis as well.
Jon will either get the kiss of life from Mel or warg into Ghost for a bit then get raised up, with the latter being more likely IMO.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 4:50 pm to NIH
1. Stannis is totally setting a trap. Boltons will ride out into slaughter. Ramsay is playing games with the letter but he is done in the next book as he has outlived all usefulness.
2. Connington and Aegeon have been played for fools by Varys and Illyrio. Aegeon is a Blackfyre, straight up. Varys wants to make amends to Aerys II for setting him up and this was the best way. I feel bad because I like Connington but he is a puppet of the spider. Aegon dies midway through the book.Everyone is sad but then....
3. Jon Snow is kissed by Mel and brought back. Having given his life to the watch, he is free of his oath and he proceeds forward to Winterfell. On his way he runs into Brienne and is given Oathkeeper (red firey sword) and begins to set it all straight with a band of outlaws, maybe you've heard of them. At some point he goes to see the Crannogmen in order to go back to prepare Winterfell for the onslaught of the Others. Only the Lord of the Neck has a story he'd like to tell about three bad brothers (Kingsguard) you know so well it started way back in history at the Tower of Joy with Ser Arthur D.
4. Meereen begins to fall until a white haired gal with a rocking bod comes back at the head of 30,000 screaming Dothraki and one very pissed off dragon. They kill the invaders, take up the willing sell swords and with help of the Halfman finally tame these damn dragons. Then its off to Dorne to begin the conquest of the Seven Kingdoms.
5. Kings Landing takes a major hit from Dany and Cersei gives up the city in return for Tommen and Mrycella being allowed to leave with her and head to the Rock. Only Tyrion doesnt care for this and he attempts to stop it leading to, Jamie/Tyrion show down son! Maybe not physically but figuratively for sure.
THe greatest and best storylines will of course be Jon Snow and Tyrion. Which will lead up to why Tyrion will convince Dany to relinquish her reign to Jon Snow as the rightful heir and take up arms against the Others in the North, but that is a tale for another book.
2. Connington and Aegeon have been played for fools by Varys and Illyrio. Aegeon is a Blackfyre, straight up. Varys wants to make amends to Aerys II for setting him up and this was the best way. I feel bad because I like Connington but he is a puppet of the spider. Aegon dies midway through the book.Everyone is sad but then....
3. Jon Snow is kissed by Mel and brought back. Having given his life to the watch, he is free of his oath and he proceeds forward to Winterfell. On his way he runs into Brienne and is given Oathkeeper (red firey sword) and begins to set it all straight with a band of outlaws, maybe you've heard of them. At some point he goes to see the Crannogmen in order to go back to prepare Winterfell for the onslaught of the Others. Only the Lord of the Neck has a story he'd like to tell about three bad brothers (Kingsguard) you know so well it started way back in history at the Tower of Joy with Ser Arthur D.
4. Meereen begins to fall until a white haired gal with a rocking bod comes back at the head of 30,000 screaming Dothraki and one very pissed off dragon. They kill the invaders, take up the willing sell swords and with help of the Halfman finally tame these damn dragons. Then its off to Dorne to begin the conquest of the Seven Kingdoms.
5. Kings Landing takes a major hit from Dany and Cersei gives up the city in return for Tommen and Mrycella being allowed to leave with her and head to the Rock. Only Tyrion doesnt care for this and he attempts to stop it leading to, Jamie/Tyrion show down son! Maybe not physically but figuratively for sure.
THe greatest and best storylines will of course be Jon Snow and Tyrion. Which will lead up to why Tyrion will convince Dany to relinquish her reign to Jon Snow as the rightful heir and take up arms against the Others in the North, but that is a tale for another book.
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