re: CCA Star Tourney: Any OBers fish it?

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Oh and redfish are now way overpopulated

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Yeh well I can remember gill netters going into lakes and completely wiping out schools of trout. Had they thought more about conservation instead of greed there may not have been a need for CCA.

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And they play a big role in alot of the fishing going IFQ. They are trying to reduce the amount of licenses and therefore eliminating the little man.

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Why should commercial sector get more than the recreational sector? I don't think CCA has ever been a strong proponent of IFQs. I may be wrong but I think the only IFQ fishery is red snapper.

ETA: CCA is not a proponent of IFQs:[link=(
)]https://www.joincca.org/IFQ%20testimony.html[/link]

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The current IFQ program being addressed by the Council will allocate and give exclusive rights of access to more than half of all the Gulf grouper to a limited number of commercial interests. CCA is opposed to locking up an important natural resource in a small number of individuals until there is a reallocation of the resource that fairly and equitably distributes the benefits of the fishery. Even among existing IFQ programs, we have become aware of a number of problems. The recently implemented red snapper IFQ program is not generating the revenues required to fund its administrative support and appears to be exacerbating discard mortality in the commercial sector. Testimony given by the National Marine Fisheries Service and members of the public at the last Council meeting indicated that harvesters and dealers are artificially lowering the ex-vessel price paid for IFQ caught fish in order to reduce associated payments for administrative support. In testimony before the Florida Fish and Wildlife Commission, Bob Spaeth said that the Florida longline fleet was releasing dead between 1,000 and 1,500 pounds of red snapper on each grouper trip. Apparently the IFQ shares (purchased or leased) necessary to eliminate such bycatch mortality are not available. This appears to demonstrate that the economic efficiency envisioned by the Council when it adopted the red snapper IFQ plan has not been realized. We strongly suggest that NMFS and the Gulf Council correct the deficiencies in the existing IFQ program before considering another program that could create the same problems. Robert Hayes, CCA Legal Counsel, states that, “On the argument that the U.S. federal government is the steward of the resources for all its citizens and the commercial fishermen is providing consumers access to that resource: the U.S. is the steward of all of its resources – sunfish, ducks, deer, and striped bass – all of them. The concept that a private commercial enterprise is necessary to provide the public with the enjoyment of those resources by selling them to consumers so they can eat them was rejected by the federal government and state wildlife managers before 1900. There is no basis in any federal common law, any wildlife law or the constitution for such proposition. Anybody making this argument should be asked to provide some authority for it.”

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A few of the bigger boats buy all the quotas from the smaller boats because they can't even pay the fuel with the little bit they are allowed to catch. On top of that, the quota you are given is based in historcial catch. Thats mean its practically impossible for someone new to enter in the business.

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Sounds like the commercial sector has a bigger effect on the little guys than anything.

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Oh and redfish are now way overpopulated

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meh. anyway, CCA and commercial interests are aligned now more than ever because of the federal regs.

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Why should commercial sector get more than the recreational sector? I don't think CCA has ever been a strong proponent of IFQs. I may be wrong but I think the only IFQ fishery is red snapper.

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I'm pretty sure the mackerel fishing is IFQ also.

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CCA is not a proponent of IFQs: LINK

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This may be true. Most of the info I hear is second hand from the commersial fisherman. I'm definitely no expert on the CCA. I don't know of any shrimpers or commercial fisherman who are in favor of the CCA.

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So you get on a public internet message board and claim to hate those bastards at CCA without even knowing the facts?

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Yeah when you have a bunch of family memebers that say they have a negative impact on their livelihood obviously I'm not going to be their biggest fan

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ETA - and Motorboat, I have a hunch you and I might know each other.

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Prolly so. you fish Cocodrie or stay around LC?

I'll be in Dulac Friday afternoon and on the water Saturday.

BR Banquet is Tuesday, BTW.

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So instead of informing yourself you trust that they are providing a completely un biased opinion?

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No I'm aware their opinion is most likely biased. I know for a fact the CCA was huge in making TED's mandatory on trawls. I personally don't give a frick about turtles. I'm sure the CCA does many good things. It's the same with anything though. While trying to protect ceratin things you will inadvertently have a negative impact on others. I don't know of any commercial fisherman who support the organization. Being that I have alot of friends and family that make their living that way I'll side with them. I don't have anything against anyone who thinks the CCA is great. You're entitiled to your own opinion...

Do you think that with out limits fisheries world wide would be sustainable for future generations?

Of course the commercial fishermen hate CCA. If they had it their way they would catch every fish, shrimp, and crab they could. The limits are actually helping future generations.

TED's are not something I know much about but if everyone knows it is killing off turtles why not mandate them?

ETA: I will also add its pretty messed up when the gill nets were about to be banned and the commercial fishermen were taking it out on the recreational fishermen by messing with lower units on boats etc.

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Prolly so. you fish Cocodrie or stay around LC?

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Fish mainly Big Lake unless I go to Venice offshore.

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BR Banquet is Tuesday, BTW.

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Yeah I know. Ya'll have fun! The LC Banquet was great this year.

With all that said and done what are you going to charge me for some shrimp

I am waiting for IT departments to put the hammer down on TD. I won't know what to do with myself