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re: 2 things that I noticed about The Dark Knight

Posted on 5/2/12 at 6:43 pm to
Posted by alajones
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Posted on 5/2/12 at 6:43 pm to
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Stated another way, just because the accountant connects the dots between Wayne Enterprise and Batman, doesn't mean the next logical thought is that Bruce is Batman. Heck, presumably, Wayne Enterprise could have hired any badass to be Batman.
Thank you. That's what I'm getting at.

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I think it's perfectly obvious what Nolan intended for Reese to be implying as most people in the theater got the same impression.
That is what he was getting at. But he shouldn't have. Nothing in the accountants presentation gave that up. So either Fox is a dumbass and let the cat out of the bag (He isn't a dumbass), or it was a mistake in the scene.
That's why I said someone in editing made a mistake. It should have been something they caught. Like someone proofreading a book missing a typo.

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Only those who try to be cleverer than they really are have a different interpretation for what Reese was getting at.
Bite me.

This post was edited on 5/2/12 at 6:49 pm
Posted by Mr. Wayne
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Posted on 5/3/12 at 9:23 am to
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That is what he was getting at. But he shouldn't have. Nothing in the accountants presentation gave that up. So either Fox is a dumbass and let the cat out of the bag (He isn't a dumbass), or it was a mistake in the scene.
That's why I said someone in editing made a mistake. It should have been something they caught. Like someone proofreading a book missing a typo.


It's not a mistake in writing. It's:

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Only those who try to be cleverer than they really are have a different interpretation for what Reese was getting at.


Reese is the CPA of one of the most profitable companies in the world and you think he can't connect the dots when he realizes Wayne Enterprises, mainly Fox (head of the R&D department), are behind the Batman and Bruce Wayne. He, more than likely not being an R-tard, probably had time to connect the dots between Wayne Enterprises/Fox/Batman and his multi-billionaire boss who is obsessed with the R&D department, spends a lot of money on that department, and is BFF with Fox who was running said department. You are seriously reaching if you think because Reese never said, "I know Batman is Bruce Wayne" means there was a chance he didn't know that was the case.
Posted by magildachunks
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Posted on 5/3/12 at 9:27 am to
Quick question because I can't remember: What was the point of the scene? Did the accountant ever come into the movie after that? Was this plot line even needed for the film?

Or was this just filler to add time to the movie?
Posted by alajones
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Posted on 5/3/12 at 9:37 am to
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You are seriously reaching
Nothing in what he said to Fox before Fox confirmed it mentions Bruce. Only Batman.

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What was the point of the scene? Did the accountant ever come into the movie after that? Was this plot line even needed for the film?
Yes, Reese became an central part of the movie.

I read what you said about the third act. I guess I'd never really thought of it like that. I always somewhat disliked the last 45 minutes of the movie. You bring up some good points.
This post was edited on 5/3/12 at 9:40 am
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 5/3/12 at 9:59 am to
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Nothing in what he said to Fox before Fox confirmed it mentions Bruce. Only Batman.


So what? Are you one of those people who needs everything spelled out for you? It's perfectly clear what Reese is implying to Fox in that scene. Just because it is never explicitly said does not mean that it was not implied. If Reese had not meant to imply Bruce Wayne, don't you think he would have said something along the lines of: "Who said anything about Bruce Wayne?" Reese's reaction to Fox's response makes it perfectly clear to the audience what Reese was implying. While one could say the writing in that scene was bad, I think the actor's facial expressions more than make up for it.

Just watch the scene one more time to see what I'm getting at:

Fox owns Reese
Posted by alajones
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Posted on 5/3/12 at 10:00 am to
We're just going to disagree. It's okay if that happens.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/3/12 at 10:01 am to
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Quick question because I can't remember: What was the point of the scene? Did the accountant ever come into the movie after that? Was this plot line even needed for the film?



Later in the movie, Reese threatens to reveal who Batman is when people keep dying, then the Joker decides to keep Batman's identity secret. So Joker tells Gotham either kill Reese or he'll blow up a hospital.

Bruce Wayne then wrecks a perfectly good Lamborghini to save Reese.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 5/3/12 at 10:02 am to
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We're just going to disagree. It's okay if that happens.


No. You're just wrong. It should be obvious to anyone what Reese was implying. Why else would Nolan leave the scene in there?
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Posted on 5/3/12 at 10:03 am to
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SHE SMASHED THE HOMIE!!!1
Posted by alajones
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Posted on 5/3/12 at 10:05 am to
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Why else would Nolan leave the scene in there?
Because it was a mistake which is what I've been saying the entire time. The point of the scene was to convey that Reese knew who Batman really was but it was done wrong. You don't think there are screw ups in movies all the time? They call them Easter Eggs or something right?
Posted by Mr. Wayne
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Posted on 5/3/12 at 10:32 am to
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Because it was a mistake which is what I've been saying the entire time.


It wasn't a mistake. You thought you were being clever and found something that Nolan messed up on. You have been proven wrong and are holding your hands over your ears saying "I'm right" over and over. You have nothing to combat my last argument.
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