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TigerstuckinMS 
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| re: Wholefoods fish ban?! (Posted on 4/24/12 at 4:22 pm to JasonL79)
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Redfish is far from being unsustainable.
Not when a fat man burns one.
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Y.A. Tittle
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| re: Wholefoods fish ban?! (Posted on 4/24/12 at 4:24 pm to TigerstuckinMS)
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Not when a fat man burns one.
Actually, that's a good example of how sustainable it really is.
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Martini
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| re: Wholefoods fish ban?! (Posted on 4/24/12 at 4:59 pm to JasonL79)
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Wild salmon is a lot more expensive compared to Farm. Certain species of wild salmon that is.
The farmed Atlantic salmon they are cutting is found in all other grocery markets including Alberton's which runs it for $3.99 a pound so they aren't missing out on much there since they didn't sell much of it anyway.
I believe the other farmed species they are banning are imported mostly.
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Martini
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| re: Wholefoods fish ban?! (Posted on 4/24/12 at 5:02 pm to Martini)
And anyone who knows how I post knows this is my standard go to regarding Chinese Aquaculture and why I won't buy any Chinese imports.
Chinese Aquaculture
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tigerfoot 
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| re: Wholefoods fish ban?! (Posted on 4/24/12 at 5:08 pm to gmrkr5)
the longliners will just find some other place to sell their fish. Some place that lacks the expertise or distribution capability and it will all just rot.
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BottomlandBrew
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| re: Wholefoods fish ban?! (Posted on 4/24/12 at 5:20 pm to JasonL79)
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Redfish is far from being unsustainable.
Not redfish as in Red Drum, but rather red-rated fish.
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kfizzle85
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| re: Wholefoods fish ban?! (Posted on 4/24/12 at 7:41 pm to BottomlandBrew)
Yeah I noticed this about a a month ago when I went to get some tuna. They used to have some that was relatively cheap and all they had was the more expensive kind. I made a comment like "damn that's some expensive tuna" and your boy behind the counter took that as his time to edumacate me, "well fish is VERY in demand globally blah blah" and I was like "no I just meant that that tuna was more expensive, y'all used to have some cheaper stuff too." Then he told me about this ban in the link, and somehow the conversation turned into "all the oysters in the Gulf are dead from BP" or some such shite (this is in Houston) and I was just like WTF and walked away and got a NY Strip instead. I  but I also  .
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JasonL79 
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| re: Wholefoods fish ban?! (Posted on 4/24/12 at 7:58 pm to BottomlandBrew)
Gotcha, I misread it.
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JasonL79
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| re: Wholefoods fish ban?! (Posted on 4/24/12 at 8:01 pm to kfizzle85)
From the article, it looks like they will still sell yellowfin and bigeye tuna but it will have to be domestic tuna and not imported fresh yellowfin from Vietnam, Pacific Ocean, or from South America.
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LSUAfro
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| re: Wholefoods fish ban?! (Posted on 4/24/12 at 8:22 pm to JasonL79)
I see the pacific ocean yellowfin sold around here quite often. Always makes me
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| re: Wholefoods fish ban?! (Posted on 4/24/12 at 8:27 pm to LSUAfro)
I read something today about there being a big shortage around the globe right now on certain kinds of tuna.
Is this true and if so, what is the reason?
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kfizzle85
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| re: Wholefoods fish ban?! (Posted on 4/24/12 at 8:56 pm to JasonL79)
All they had at the time was bigeye, and the dude was adamant they wouldn't sell yellowfin. It would not surprise me that he was wrong, because I seriously doubt the sushi on the other side of building is anything but that. Same guy was adamant about all oysters being dead and crawfish being unsustainable, so, you know. He may have been high, I'm not sure. You know I'm not kidding either.
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JasonL79
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| re: Wholefoods fish ban?! (Posted on 4/24/12 at 9:30 pm to LSUAfro)
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I see the pacific ocean yellowfin sold around here quite often. Always makes me
Yep, a lot of tuna come out of the pacific that are sold in the US. Looks like a cookie cutter program from Whole Foods. Just because a species is being overfished around Asia in the pacific doesn't mean it is happening here. 
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JasonL79
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| re: Wholefoods fish ban?! (Posted on 4/24/12 at 9:35 pm to notiger1997)
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read something today about there being a big shortage around the globe right now on certain kinds of tuna.
Is this true and if so, what is the reason?
There is a shortage on Bluefin but I haven't heard of a shortage on yellowfin. I'm not sure how they decide there is a shortage on Bluefin anyway. I know it's done with population models when Bluefin swim the whole globe and also travel in very deep waters. How do you get an accurate count on a fish like that?
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kfizzle85
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| re: Wholefoods fish ban?! (Posted on 4/24/12 at 10:25 pm to JasonL79)
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Cash 
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| re: Wholefoods fish ban?! (Posted on 4/24/12 at 10:31 pm to TigerGman)
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How is a farm raised fish "unsustainable"?
(Un)sustainability isn't the only criteria to make the list. They also factor in the environmental impact of farming and/or fishing them.
Some farming practices allegedly cause large environmental impact.
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Martini
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| re: Wholefoods fish ban?! (Posted on 4/25/12 at 6:52 am to Cash)
Read my link regarding chinese aquaculture farming practices. That's what they are regarding.
Bluefin is tracked and they are being fished to extinction. Quotas are set and routinely dismissed. Morrimoto will only use big eye tuna now in his restaurants in lieu of bluefin because of this.
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JasonL79
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| re: Wholefoods fish ban?! (Posted on 4/25/12 at 3:54 pm to Martini)
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Bluefin is tracked and they are being fished to extinction. Quotas are set and routinely dismissed. Morrimoto will only use big eye tuna now in his restaurants in lieu of bluefin because of this.
Not many sushi places use/used Bluefin. I know this for a fact. It is more of a specialty type thing with sushi places here. Bluefin is not widely available and never was as anywhere close to being available as yellowfin. My family has sold over 200+ bluefin while in business and I remember very few times when local sushi restaurants actually bought any bluefin. It was just too much meat and too high of a price to cutup a 500lb bluefin in the New Orleans/Baton Rouge market and sell it all. When we did it we would end up selling 15-20lbs here and 20-30lbs there and then you would be leftover with 200+lbs of bluefin loins you couldn't sell at a cost of $10-$20/lb which would result in a big loss. Most of our bluefin we bought went to New York,Chicago,Boston,Los Angeles, and even some to Japan. Bigger markets where they had the people and budget to afford it. And we were one of the bigger tuna docks/buyers in the gulf of mexico area for 15+ years and if we handled more than 25 a year that was a ton.
After Japan's economy went downhill, the bluefin market got so bad no one would hardly even buy them. This went on for years.
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