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VerlanderBEAST  Michigan Fan Member since Dec 2011 8235 posts
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| re: Will the BIG 10 surpass the Big 12 as the second best conference in 2ish years? (Posted on 4/19/12 at 11:30 am to H-Town Tiger)
I think the Pac12 already has the best set of coaches
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DrVinnyBoombatz  Texas Tech Fan Lubbock Member since Oct 2011 2804 posts

| re: Will the BIG 10 surpass the Big 12 as the second best conference in 2ish years? (Posted on 4/19/12 at 11:42 am to VerlanderBEAST)
Better then the SEC? Saban, Miles, and Chizik in the West along with Richt and Spurrier in the east is salty. Those 5 alone are enough to make anyone blush. And if we are talking about density of good coaches then the SEC West is by far the best division for coaches in football. And it was untouchable when Petrino was there.
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chalmetteowl  USA Fan Da Parish Member since Jan 2008 9385 posts

| re: Will the BIG 10 surpass the Big 12 as the second best conference in 2ish years? (Posted on 4/19/12 at 11:49 am to Zamoro10)
did the big ten have anyone like OK State or OU? baylor could have won that conference, plus west virginia and tcu are coming? below the top teams the B1G has the edge, but who cares at that point?
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VerlanderBEAST  Michigan Fan Member since Dec 2011 8235 posts
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| re: Will the BIG 10 surpass the Big 12 as the second best conference in 2ish years? (Posted on 4/19/12 at 11:49 am to Zamoro10)
I love all this talk of population shift yet the Midwest still produces a ton of athletes in many different sports
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KillianRussell  Penn State Fan New Orleans Member since Jan 2012 7319 posts

| re: Will the BIG 10 surpass the Big 12 as the second best conference in 2ish years? (Posted on 4/19/12 at 11:59 am to chalmetteowl)
Until the Big Ten turns a blind eye to academics the Big 12 will have an edge. The kids from PA that now play in the NFL but did not play in the Big Ten (or SEC) is pretty impressive Lesean McCoy, Larry Fitzgerald, Darell Reavis all academic risks that landed at Pitt
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VerlanderBEAST  Michigan Fan Member since Dec 2011 8235 posts
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| re: Will the BIG 10 surpass the Big 12 as the second best conference in 2ish years? (Posted on 4/19/12 at 12:05 pm to DrVinnyBoombatz)
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Better then the SEC? Saban, Miles, and Chizik in the West along with Richt and Spurrier in the east is salty. Those 5 alone are enough to make anyone blush. And if we are talking about density of good coaches then the SEC West is by far the best division for coaches in football. And it was untouchable when Petrino was there.
The SEC has more proven coaches but the Pac12 coaches are going to be better going forward
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StraightCashHomey21  West Virginia Fan Ramstein AB Member since Jul 2009 30046 posts

| re: Will the BIG 10 surpass the Big 12 as the second best conference in 2ish years? (Posted on 4/19/12 at 12:16 pm to KillianRussell)
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Lesean McCoy, Larry Fitzgerald, Darell Reavis all academic risks that landed at Pitt
i hate pitt with every fiber in my body but this statement is beyond ridiculous Pitt is one of the best universities in the country Teams backed off Shady b/c he got hurt and only Pitt would still give him a scolly Revis a home town guy Fitz did go to prep school but still made good grades
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DrVinnyBoombatz  Texas Tech Fan Lubbock Member since Oct 2011 2804 posts

| re: Will the BIG 10 surpass the Big 12 as the second best conference in 2ish years? (Posted on 4/19/12 at 12:18 pm to VerlanderBEAST)
Depends on who Arkansas gets. Pinkel has some wins under his belt as well. Mullen and Muschamp are fairly similar in ability and I would put them right with Leach and co.
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KillianRussell  Penn State Fan New Orleans Member since Jan 2012 7319 posts

| re: Will the BIG 10 surpass the Big 12 as the second best conference in 2ish years? (Posted on 4/19/12 at 12:21 pm to StraightCashHomey21)
Fitz went to 13th grade as did McCoy Another kid bound for JUCO was Steve Slaton who landed at WVU Both Pitt & WVU are famous for athlete majoring in eligibilty In fact McCoy was so bad he could not get into a then rogue Miami
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StraightCashHomey21  West Virginia Fan Ramstein AB Member since Jul 2009 30046 posts

| re: Will the BIG 10 surpass the Big 12 as the second best conference in 2ish years? (Posted on 4/19/12 at 12:23 pm to KillianRussell)
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Fitz went to 13th grade as did McCoy
Shady got hurt his senior year of HS and every school pulled their scolly offers but pitt
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Another kid bound for JUCO was Steve Slaton who landed at WVU
WTF are you talking about Slaton had offers from WVU and Maryland and when he told Maryland he didn't want to play DB they pulled his offer. Maryland is also one of the best schools in the country
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KillianRussell  Penn State Fan New Orleans Member since Jan 2012 7319 posts

| re: Will the BIG 10 surpass the Big 12 as the second best conference in 2ish years? (Posted on 4/19/12 at 12:25 pm to StraightCashHomey21)
Slaton was an academic risk as are/were the many fine citizens WVU football has produced
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StraightCashHomey21  West Virginia Fan Ramstein AB Member since Jul 2009 30046 posts

| re: Will the BIG 10 surpass the Big 12 as the second best conference in 2ish years? (Posted on 4/19/12 at 12:28 pm to KillianRussell)
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Slaton was an academic risk as are/were the many fine citizens WVU football has produced
Sounds like you are making fact less statements
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KillianRussell  Penn State Fan New Orleans Member since Jan 2012 7319 posts

| re: Will the BIG 10 surpass the Big 12 as the second best conference in 2ish years? (Posted on 4/19/12 at 12:39 pm to StraightCashHomey21)
Blue Chip Paul Jones who has not seen the feild at Penn State because of grades should have gone to WVU. The Combined SAT scores of Slaton and Devine fell below the average WVU enrollee.
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StraightCashHomey21  West Virginia Fan Ramstein AB Member since Jul 2009 30046 posts

| re: Will the BIG 10 surpass the Big 12 as the second best conference in 2ish years? (Posted on 4/19/12 at 12:41 pm to KillianRussell)
stop making shite up also note that BE stopped taking no qualifiers a while ago while the SEC still does And with Both schools moving conferences they will still not be able to take them
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KillianRussell  Penn State Fan New Orleans Member since Jan 2012 7319 posts

| re: Will the BIG 10 surpass the Big 12 as the second best conference in 2ish years? (Posted on 4/19/12 at 12:43 pm to StraightCashHomey21)
The truth hurts ? WVU has been cooking the books to get kids playing forever they are a perfect fit with Oklahoma
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rocket31  Toledo Fan o h i o Member since Jan 2008 17398 posts

| re: Will the BIG 10 surpass the Big 12 as the second best conference in 2ish years? (Posted on 4/19/12 at 1:23 pm to VABuckeye)
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2) There is a manufacturing rebirth in the US and that rebirth is squarely in those rust belt states you are bashing
not sure if srs?
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KillianRussell  Penn State Fan New Orleans Member since Jan 2012 7319 posts

| re: Will the BIG 10 surpass the Big 12 as the second best conference in 2ish years? (Posted on 4/19/12 at 1:31 pm to rocket31)
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There is a manufacturing rebirth in the US and that rebirth is squarely in those rust belt states you are bashing
Not sure if he is serious, not sure why he would think a native Philadelphian is bashing the rust belt states by mentioning the obivious.
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Bunk Moreland  Michigan Fan Detroit, MI Member since Dec 2010 3208 posts
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| re: Will the BIG 10 surpass the Big 12 as the second best conference in 2ish years? (Posted on 4/19/12 at 1:36 pm to Tigerbait337)
Not sure about the coaches. Meyer is obviously going to raise the bar, but how much more than Tressel? Hoke is a recruiting demon somehow, but x's and o's really have yet to be seen. Dantonio is doing a great job. The bloom has faded from Ferentz. Bielema's track record looks great so far, but I see a lot of signs he's a blockhead and they are headed for a fall. Panini - headed for a fall IMO. Everyone just loves Fitz. Hope - record incomplete. PSU - record incomplete. Kill - record incomplete. Can't name anyone else. I would put Stoops, Mack, Patterson, Snyder, Gundy, Dana, even fatso up against that lot.
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StraightCashHomey21  West Virginia Fan Ramstein AB Member since Jul 2009 30046 posts

| re: Will the BIG 10 surpass the Big 12 as the second best conference in 2ish years? (Posted on 4/19/12 at 1:37 pm to KillianRussell)
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The truth hurts ? WVU has been cooking the books to get kids playing forever they are a perfect fit with Oklahoma
a penn state questioning the morale fiber of another program. Did you go to penn state??? or one of their 20 branches campuses and claim to be a happy valley person
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KillianRussell  Penn State Fan New Orleans Member since Jan 2012 7319 posts

| re: Will the BIG 10 surpass the Big 12 as the second best conference in 2ish years? (Posted on 4/19/12 at 1:48 pm to StraightCashHomey21)
In addition to Penn State the dopes that seem to be able to make the grade @ WVU would help the other 11 squads in the Big Ten if they turned a blind eye to academics however if you want to deflect using Sandusky 
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